SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - November 2017

NTDP, San Dimas, CA

NTDP, San Dimas, CA

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Wildland Flame Front Simulator

Wildland Flame Front Simulator

Cab Crush - Type 4 Engine

Cab Crush - Type 4 Engine

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Board Members in attendance: Scott Quinn, VP; Joe Sposato, Vendor Liaison; Tony Durán, Treasurer.

Attendance: Adam Bandos, LAFD; Frank Uram, QualaTel; Tracy Rose, LineGear Fire; Tom Foley, Workrite; Kelly Whitt, Workrite; Lazaro Martinez, MES; David Molinatti, ISC; Barry Owens, Cal Fire - Riverside; Steve Hoyle, Cal Fire Museum; Eric Higgins, Bestway Laundry; Aaron Ford, Super Vac; Tom MArtin, Responder Solutions; Joe Sposato, AllStar Fire Equipment; Jack Koltaj, Fed Fire Ventura County; Tony Durán, SAFER Treasurer; Jeff Wiljerson CPEN (Retired); Abel Ramos, Tempest Tech; Alexis Labbe, Tempest Leader; Jim Evans, Solutions Safety' James Golodzinier, LACoFD

The November 17, 2017 meeting was hosted by the National Technology and Development Program, San Dimas, California.  The meeting was opened at 0930 hours by SAFER V.P., Scott Quinn by welcoming everyone in attendance and leading us in the pledge of allegiance and a moment of silence.  Refreshements were provided by VP Scott Quinn and Tracy Rabe of Line Gear Fire.  He then introduced our hosts and speaker.

Presentation:

The presenter, Robert R. Manwaring, Fire Equipment Specialist with NTDP and a former USFS Firefighter, provided an overview of the center and the projects that the centers in San Dimas and Missoula, Montana focused on through 2017.  The highlights of the program were:

Fuel Geysering - a phenomenon occurring when fuel caps were removed from tools or storage bottles that caused the fuel to suddenly shoot out "geyser" out of the storage compartment.  This event has occurred in several locations throughout the United States and causes fuel to spill out, often causing the operator to be drenched with fuel.  Only one event has been noted in California.  The event occurred in the Sierra Nevadas and it is unknown where the fuel involved in the event was purchased.  It is believed that with all the regulations on California fuel, this may fortuitously prevented the described event from occurring.  It is still not clear why the events occur.  The centers have been testing fuel containers to determine if their design was in some way a factor in this event phenomenon. Check out:  http://bit.ly/fuelgeyser_home for further information and to report events.

 Situational Awareness for ground operations - technology is being developed to its most advantageous ability by allowing the leadership on the fire ground to locate and track various pieces of information in real time.  The objective of the program is to provide a recommendation for situational awareness systems for ground operations.

Vehicle Test using the Wildland Flame Front Simulator - the survivability of vehicles when faced with direct flame impingement was tested.  As a result of similar testing, Australia is replacing all synthetic materials in the interior of its apparatus with natural fibers to increase the survivability inside the cab of an engine.  It has been noted that the glass windows are the universal weak point of the apparatus.

Ignition Potential for Handheld Mechanized Equipment - the experiments attempted to determine under what conditions sparks from equipment may ignite dry brush.  It was interesting to note that even though many sparks may be created, not all contain the heat potential to ignite a material.

Discussion of Vehicle Specifications and Standards - the discussion focused on reducing the cab crush potential during a rollover accident.  The center is working with the apparatus manufacturers to build rated roll cages in cabs.  It has been noted that the rear "fire package" acts as an impromptu roll protection (see photo). Structural polyfoam may be added in the ABC posts and roof structure of the apparatus.  The US is way behind Australia and other European countries' standards.

The centers are looking at water handling equipment.

Pulaskis - the centers noted that this popular hand tool has not changed design since its inception.  Firefighters, however, are taller and have been suffering from bending injuries.  The handles' lengths have been tested from 36" to 48" and it is believed that a 42" handle is optimum for the comfort of the firefighter without compromising the strength of the tool's handle. (Greater lengths than 42" were breaking during use).  A summary of the projects for 2018 was provided.  A tour of the facility followed the presentation.  Everyone in attendance was given a commemorative pin of the facility.

Roundtable:

Cal/OSHA: No report

NFPA - Dick Weise had just returned from an NFPA meeting and was unable to attend this meeting.  Tom Martin reported that there will be a task group meeting of NFPA 1851, PPE Care and Maintenance, on January 9, 10 & 11, 2018 in Los Angeles at the Airport Marriot.  Jim Evans offered that there have been rewrites of four chapters.  There are more guidelines specific to building an SOP.  "Gross DECON" and scene mitigation (of PPE contaminated with products of combustion, i.e., potentially cancerous) has suggested that personnel will bag their PPE and store the bags outside of the passenger areas of the appratus, unless the bags are of a filtered type.  Personnel must have a second set of PPE available or be out-of-service until after they are able to obtain a clean set of PPE. California AB2146 is currently going through a financial feasibility study and, if passed, the state will have to fund AB2146.  Barry Owens, Cal Fire, Riverside provided a brief overview of a Cal/OSHA violation they received regarding this issue.

Apparatus: No report

Vendor Liaison - Firehouse World will be moving its venue as San Diego is too far and difficult to reach due to the traffic.  Most vendors do not remain overnight.  The new venue has not been decided at the time of this meeting.

Treasurer report - $1740 - checking, $468 - savings.  As the year ends, everyone is now due for 2018.  

Alexis Labbe, Tempest Leader informed the group of the Fresno Training Officers Conference.

There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 1200 hours.  

December meeting: December 15, 2017 at Santa Fe Springs Fire Department, check the website for details.

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - October 20, 2017 - San Diego Fire & Rescue

 

SAFER Meeting Minutes

October 20, 2017

SAFER Board Attendees:    President Gurrola , VP Quinn,  Wilkerson,  Seely

San Diego Fire & Rescue Training Center

0945    Meeting called to order – President Gurrola welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, Thanks to San Diego Fire – Rescue Department for use of the facility, to AllStar Fire Equipment for the morning hospitality and Scott of FIRE ETC for lunch.  

Chief Gurrola Introduced Assistant Chief Weber who welcomed SAFER and related his appreciation for the group.

Committee Reports:

NFPA – Dick Weise absent today, Kirk and Jim added the 1851 Standard is in final phase of rewrite – “Public Comment period” till Oct 15th, committee to meet in LA to consider the comments before finalizing the standard.

Question: status of CalOSHA accepting the 1851 Standard as “California Law”. It was stated that it is still under consideration by CalOSHA.

Workplace violence reporting standard being worked on by LAFD et al. 

Apparatus – Pres Gurrola discussed the values of sharing information between various departments nationwide after issues being

Safety and Training:

Program: “Firefighter Behavioral Health and Suicide Awareness / Prevention”

Presenter: Jeff Dill, founder of the Firefighter Behavioral Health Alliance (FBHA)

 via teleconference from Firehouse Expo.

MS Degree, Retired Fire Captain Cell (847) 209-8208

On site facilitator/program coordinator: David Picone – Battalion Chief – Health and Safety Officer

San Diego Fire – Rescue Department

1010 Second Avenue, Suite 400 MS 604

dpicone@sandiego-gov, (619) 533-4466

SD Fire –Rescue began its Health and Safety Officer Position about three years ago. EMS Division now focused on citizens being served, the Health and Safety program is aimed at the fire service personnel. There is staff assigned for Cancer Awareness / Prevention and Behavioral Health.

Cancer:KurtisB@SanDiego.gov. (760) 845-6243. Related a three phase approach (1) Behavioral Change: Posters (Clean Gear, Clean Air, and Clean Body) (2) Policy Changes: Establishing operational standards for safety and wellness in daily operations and associated lifestyles. (3) Facilities upgraders such as extractors and multi sets of PPE Commitment: A sticker on helmet after committing to the programs any observed violation of “Best Practices” from the program.

Fire Department Chaplin: Has been involved with fire service in San Diego and nationally. Chaplin is a Member of “Peer Support Team” with the “firefighter’s benevolent association”. Many of “San Diego Fire & Rescue Departments” “firefighter’s benevolent association” programs were described that contribute to FF wellness needs. Contracts were developed with select mental professional services to provide needed assistance to Fire-Rescue family (includes lifeguards, fire, ems).

Notes from Jeff Dill’s presentation:

Jeff related the problem of FF Suicide and the most common causes that contribute to it:

  • Marital, Family problems

  • Depression

  • Addictions

  • Medical and Health Issuers

  • PTSD

  • Financial

  • Legal Issues

San Diego Fire-Rescue – BHP:

  1. “Cultural Brainwashing” – Fire Service Inexperience

  2. 12 Steps in creating a successful Behavioral Health Program.

  3. Joint Effort – I will be a constant working alongside Capt.  Cerruto who oversees the SD program

  4. “Commend the Call” – when a call for help is received. (from employee or a co-worker / supervisor)

  5. Education will be determined based on feedback and trends and shared to us by the providers

Issues to be addressed in San Diego - BHP:

  1. Education = all members within fire-rescue Division (FF’s, Lifegaurds, Pilots, Dispatch and civilians)

  2. Resources – “Official providers” FOCUS Psy Services, Chaplin’s, Fire Fam Services (SDFRA), EAP, Private Med Insurance, PERR support group and vetted long-term facilities

  3. Family Members

  4. New Recruits

  5. Retirement -0 Current and future retirees.

  6. Policies and Guideline’s –

Data / statistics related to FF Suicide was presented (138 in 2015)

No observed differences between paid / Volunteer/ male / female / city / rural data.

Suicide by Firearms 4x other methods – statistics presented

Retiree’s vs. active employees – (36 within 1 week of resignation)

Q: Size-up: Why am I using these substances, why do have these feelings. We have to self-assess:

Warning signs:

  1. Anger

  2. Reckless Behavior

  3. Isolation

  4. Lack of personal self-confidence – job competence

  5. Sleep depravation

Retirees:

  1. Loss of sense of humor

     

  • If you look back to incidents in your career that you remember in absolute details of the incident you have some level of PTSD.

FIRESTRONG.org: A website from Phoenix FD with resources for direct access regarding Behavioral Health needs.

Sleep disorders program (from Harvard) is available for around $40,000 / agency. They send a “Train the Trainer” team out to teach your agency about sleep disorders. Those who’ve used the service highly recommend the program. Contact Kurtis with SD Fire-Rescue.

Discussion on the current state of affairs regarding mental health / suicide issues in the fire service. Recent experiences with various departments who’ve experienced suicide in their agency(s).

Additional information from local SD Fire – Rescue resources was provided: FOCUS Psychologist, Chaplin.

 

Roundtable:

Jeff Wilkerson – Camp Pendleton (Retired) -Great job SDF-R on the wellness issue

Jim Marugg - San Miguel Fire & Rescue Dept. – Related the green sheet report on an incident where a FF was contaminated with human waste at a homeless encampment. Related the particulars of his injury from a chemical burn / reaction to chemical contaminates. Policy changes include (1) No overhaul at night, (2) had to toss about $1,000 in PPE plus hose due to contamination. (3) All homeless encampments are considered a HazMat location.

Steve Hoyle – OCFA (Retired) – CA Fire museum

Adam Brandos LAFD – Attending for first time

Scott Quinn BC LAFD – “National” Mayday report is out, FF Memorial Ceremony held last week

Sebastion – Fillmore NTR

North Co FD -Firesrtong.org and Peer Councilors being used for several local agencies

Ventura – Running Academies, many resources are out.

Michelle Trout – Lion –Related lots of new products for PPE / Uniform needs.

John Fisher SD Fire and Rescue – Wildland Committee – Finishing a PPE Survey for 1977 gear.

David Bogg – Psychological “ FOCUS” program.

BullEx – Live and Visual displays.

Henry SD City – NTA

Frank Uram - Qualtel – Liked the topic, related the experience in today’s military.

MES – Covers SD County. Has new dual compliant work pant available.

David Molinatti  – Industrial Scientific -  Related new equip and services available to first responders.

Mario Marion – Streamlight , related new products avail

Scott Estrada – FIRE ETC. – Related they supply SD F-R, SoCal FPE – cleans PPE to meet 1851 standard

Emily Stubbs - Solutions Safety – Business development for Solutions Safety

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety – Long way since 19XX in the development of PPE selection, care and maintenance

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment – Related an attempted suicide event within his department.

Tracy Rabe – Linegear Fire & Rescue Equipment – Related equipment and support services available through Linegear.  

Kirk Owen – Veridian -  Liked the presentation, topic today. Thanked the presenter.

Larry Asst. Fire Marshall SD F-R – Related the importance of these types of employee support systems / programs.

Tom Martin – Has shelty gloves that meet the new NFPA standards. (Note new email address)

Rob Hoadley – Cardiac Science – First Meeting with SAFER, Vender of fully automatic AED’s and EMS AED’s

Ed Shabaro – LN Curtis – Related equipment / PPE currently available through Curtis.

Bill Ward – Pump Pod USA – Related the use of the “Pump Pod” that allows Fire departments to train, test and certify fire pumps while saving large volumes of water.

Abe – AllStar Fire Equipment – Related the PPE available through AllStar. Fire Show Reno – first week of November.

John Picone BC SD F-R –Related the topic today as being timely and needed.

Mark Sheldone – Days off Consultants – related the products they manufacture / rep.

Brett Days off Consultants – Reps Red Back Shoes and wildland foot wear

Jeff Storey – Plymovent rep. Related the importance of exhaust removal and the history with San Diego Fire with Plymovent. They were the first they were able to design and build a system for

Steve Cooley – Cobra Litter – Introduced the completed version of the Cobra Rescue Litter. Related the many uses of the system, the quality and versatility of the product for fire, ems, major event support where transportation of victim’s / support equipment / fire hose / SWAT – Law.

Mike Schlags – Cobra Litter – Added the potential uses of the Cobra Litter in incidents like the Las Vegas massacre / mass casualty incidents. 

Keith Gurrola Fillmore Fire Chief (Retired Ventura County) – Related the importance of today’s topic and the myriad of employee assistance programs.

NEXT MEETING SanDimiss – US Forest Service

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

Meeting adjourned: 1200

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)             

 

Agency / Co

NAME

PHONE #

EMAIL (s)

 

Downey Fire (Retired)

Chuck Seely

(949) 492-7993

firebiz@att.net

 

c alifornia fire muaseum

steve hoyle

9494965688

stbear@cox.net

 

Redback/Cosmas Footwear

Brett

619 203-6541

brett@cosmasusa.com

 

Camp Pendleton Fire ret.

Jeff Wilkerson

949-830-087

jwilker@cox.net

 

Quala-Tel Communications

Frank Uram

858-577-2900

furam@qualatel.com

 

BullEx

Daniel Vaccaro

518-698-5281

dvaccaro@bullex.com

 

LION

Michelle Trout

480-225-1324

mtrout@lionprotects.com

 

SCOTT SAFETY

Steve Hanks

858-226-7420

shanks@scottsafety.com

 

SDFD

David Picone

9492466999

dpicone@sandiego.gov

 

PumpPodUSA

Bill Ward

 

bill@liqui-pod.com

 

Aair Purification/Plymovent

Jeff Storey

8007766746

airpurisys@aol.com

 

Days Off Consultants/NightStick Lighting

Mark Sheldone

760-505-3473

msheldone@sbcglobal.net

 

AllStar Fire Equipment

Gabe Sayegh

6262550431

gabeallstar@gmail.com

 

Fillmore Fire

Keith Gurrola

805-558-0932

keithg@ci.fillmore.ca.us

 

Western States Fire Equipment

Louie Garcia

213-272-5680

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

 

Safety Components

Bill Black

858-243-4371

bblack@safetycomponents.com

 

Responder Solutions

Tom Martin

909-264-4875

tmartin@responder.solutions

 

Solutions Safety Products

Jim Evans

770-634-0848

jime@solutionssafety.com

 

Solutions Safety Products

Emily Stubs

 

emilys@solutionssafety.com

 

San Miguel Fire & Rescue

Jim Marugg

619-977-0793

jmarugg@sanmiguelfire.org

 

San Diego Fire-Rescue

John Fisher

858-945-6869

jafisher@sandiego.gov

 

LAFD

Adam Brandos

 

Adam.Brandos@Lacity.org

 

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment

Tracy Rabe

949-230-5610

tracy@linegear.com

 

SoCal

Melissa Magee

619-309-2240

melissa@soicalppe.com

 

Cardiac Science

Rob Hoadley

619.208.9190

rhoadley@cardiacscience.com

 

Veridian

Kirk Owen

712-260-3547

kirk@veridian.net

 

Cobra Litters LLC

Mike Schlags

805-896-7993

mschlags@cobralitter.com

 

Industrial Scinetific

David Molinatti

714-403-1915

dmolinatti@indsci.com

 

VCFD

Robert Szczepanek

805-914-4021

Robert.Szczepanek@ventura.org

 

VCFD

Shannon Black

 

shannon.black@ventura.org

 

Streamlight

Mario Payan

(818) 731-2510

Mpayan@pactecsales.com

 

MES (Muni Emerg Services)

Bill Zamudio

(858) 715-4639

bzamudio@mesfire.com

 

SoCal PPE

Chase Powell

(619) 309-2240

SOCALPPE.com

 

 

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - August 2017 - OCFA

 

SAFER Meeting Minutes

August 18, 2017

SAFER Board Attendees:    President Gurrola , VP Quinn,  Wilkerson,  Seely

Orange County Fire Authority Headquarters

0930    Meeting called to order – President Gurrola welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, Thanks to ORCO Fire Authority for use of the facility and to Michelle Trout with LIONfor the morning hospitality.   

Russ Snyder Introduced A/C Dave Anderson who welcomed SAFER and related his appreciation for the group’s contribution to FF safety and health. He related the importance of today’s topic (Cancer) and how his agency has been impacted by this health problem. He added the agency just pushed out a new policy to mandate SCBA use from beginning to end at every fire. He related the “clean gear, clean air, clean body” initiative.

A/C Chief Brian Young added his appreciation for the coordination to SAFER and the venders aligned with the safety and health of today’s fire service. 

Committee Reports:

NFPA – Dick sent an email with his report – delivered by Scott Quinn:

1977 Standard is in public input, several issues related to “how clean is clean” to try to set a standard for cleaning.

1851 is being revised to incorporate changes that have been proposed from its public comment period.

1971 Soon to be released in the 4th quarter to incorporate changes to those parts of the PPE ensemble.  

Pres. Gurrola related he attended a PPE meeting that included a major change in PPE for ARFF personnel for “most” airports. The “silver” suits are being phased out to favor of 1971 PPE. The exception is for major airports like LAX etc. and military installations.

Moving website to Tracy Rabe, our new website manager to speed up and improve postings.

Safety and Training:

Pres related there are several shows coming up. ARFF , Cancer symposium in Phoenix is coming in September.

Wants to team up with TO’s to post various training opportunities.  

Russ introduced Jonathan Wilby - OCFA Risk Manager, who will deliver today’s program:

Program: “An Organizational Look at Cancer Awareness and Prevention”

Jonathan related his position as OCFA Risk Manager and explained his role as an advocate for agency health and safety. He related the cooperation of management and labor in the health and safety mission. He related the OCFA’s Cancer experience over the past five years.

(Insert PowerPoint here)

Changes Implemented to date:

  • Sunscreen products at every station

  • Second set of PPE

  • Structural PPE selection, care, and maintenance to meet NFPA 1851 standards

  • Rescue wipes used during post fire decontamination

  • Respiratory protection program procedure

  • SCBA use throughout suppression / overhaul

  • PAPR use throughout investigations (Cache kept on Truck Companies)

Mentioned San Diego Cities program as a model program

Changes in Process:

  • Educational component (cultural change)

  • Standardized signage restricting turnouts from living and sleeping areas

  • Post fire asbestos sampling and testing procedures

  • Ice machine contaminate assessment

  • Washer / extractors located in each battalion

 

Related asbestos contamination problem: PPE came back from their ISP with detectable levels of asbestos. They use LION Total Care ISP in Texas who has a proprietary process to clean PPE with asbestos. The department is using an industrial hygienist to verify test results to drive policy decisions.

Five Gas Monitors:

  1. CO

  2. VOC (look for zero VOC)

  3. O2

  4. Lower Expl limits

  5. Upper Expl limits

B/C Scott Quinn answered what LAFD is doing regarding asbestos and related all the difficulties in establishing policy for agency wide use. Related you almost need to build a flow chart to follow based on specific contaminates.

Chief Gurrola related Ventura County relies on the station extractors for cleaning contaminated gear.

Discussion on placement / appropriateness of Station Extractors vrs centralized service center based cleaning strategies.

Question: (Wilkerson) How does OCFA handle brush gear (1877 gear)?. (Russ) They currently don’t see many brush sets coming through the service center. Related some guys wash their 1977 gear in stations or even at home. Attendees related there will be cleaning requirements included in the new 1977 standard.

Jonathan related Historically the “first-in company” stayed throughout he suppression – overhaul – investigation phases. “First in – First out” to return to quarters for showers and equipment decontamination efforts is a possible policy change towards firefighter health.

Jonathan demonstrated the various promotional materials the OCFA is using in support of these program changes: stickers, posters and a video. The in-house produced video was viewed and very well received by all.

Question (Russ) Are any agencies doing an exchange program for hoods? Fresno – the B/C’s have a bag of new hoods that they distribute “on-scene” and collect  contaminated units for decontamination . LAFD relate if you need a new hood you’ll get a new hood.

Pres. Gurrola related were hoping to develop a “blog” capability to continue and expand discussions on various subjects (like FF CA) within the website.

John Price related the IAFF programs being instituted to enhance the awareness and practices designed to reduce carcinogens. He related the Firefighters Cancer Support Network efforts to reach-out to Cancer Victims for support and to all fire service personnel for education and training.

Jim Plymovent related there are numerous Attorneys representing Firefighters in exposure cases. Discussed exhaust gas removal systems and their respective differences.

Roundtable:

Chief Gurrola – Fillmore FD -  Encourages members to report accidents / injuries to promote discussion and exchange of potential solutions.

Jeff Wilkerson - Camp Pendleton (Retired) – Reports Camp has been having fires. Ca Fire Museum is meeting with Irvine to request location

Russ Snyder OCFA – Thanks for attending, related the video was excellent and related the organization is starting a 52 man academy in Sept, another 50 thereafter, got numererous new apparatus. Related the trucks are overweight – working with committees to resolve. Second of 3 phases of “second set” PPE’s is nearing completion

Fillmorer Fire Sebaastion

Eric Higgins - Bestway Laundry – Related new hand scanner for use on extractors will be rolled out next week

B/C Scott Quinn - LAFD – Regional Safety Team is doing investigation of Kelly Wong LODD. LAFD is doing FRO training – Opioid problem is becoming a real problem – First Responders are having problems getting enough Narcan to service all the fentanyl OD’s. Additionally, personnel exposed to very small quantities of fentanyl can cause risks to their health.

Steve Hanks - Scott Safety – Reps West Coast and Hawaii – Scott has 2018 NFPA Packs are ready to ship waiting for official certification from NFPA.

Steve Harris – Plymovent

JP – Nothing to add

Louie Garcia - Western States Fire Equip – Showed new structure glove and related DPF is still an issue . Cops West is having a show in October 31-Nov 1 & 2  Palm Springs.

Kelly Witt - Workrite – Corporate was talking to fabric supplier of “Nomex” discussing the characteristics of the fabric as it relates to cleaning and performance in multi-certifications.

Sean Van Sluis - Santa Monica Fire – Enjoyed presentation, just took over the PPE role, is a member of their safety committee. Is organizing their PPE to lean towards “second set” program and will be going “single layer” for brush gear (1977). Gurrola: Should we be wearing our 1971 gear to T/C’s and risk absorption of petro-chem’s? Maybe come up with a “better Option” for simple T/C responses.

Tracy Rabe - LineGear Fire and Rescue Equipment – Been with them for 7 years, now have a catalog with gear they sell.

Tracy Is now managing our website to improve attendance and expand content and interaction. The enhancements should help both FD’s as well as member venders.

Chad Dicksins - Atwood-Prior – Reps Pelican Products

Tom Martin - Atwood-Prior – Discussed Level A, B, C PPE, has a number of products.

X Discussed the dual /Tri certification for “cover pant” as it affects our Cancer risk.

Steve Hoyle – Ca Fire Museum & Safety Learning Center – ORCO (Retired)  – Related the 1851 Standard was a direct off-shoot of the work SAFER produced. There have been updates since the original proposed standard. Museum organizers will be meeting with City of Irvine to discuss a location for the museum in the great park.

Melissa McGee / Doug Murphy – SoCal PPE - ISP “Intratech Certified” has pick-up and delivery service. They are located in San Diego near Coronado. She related the procedure to send contaminated PPE in for cleaning. 

Frank Uram - Qualatel Communications – Related the” ear pieces” on headsets / microphones get contaminated and should be replaced as some reasonable period. He relates he designs and installs radios and intercom systems in emergency vehicles.

Kirk Owens –  Veridian Fire Protective Gear (Retired Fire Chief & NFPA Committee Chair) – Related he is available to help support the group in technical matters. Discussed the asbestos issue and related the traditional approach was to dispose of anything exposed to asbestos, was interested in the cleaning procedure being used by OCFA. Related they will be releasing a hood with “Particulate Blocking” capabilities. Waiting for the updated 1971 standard. Several problems: Dual Certified, Tri-Certified – Vapor Protection feature costs you breathability and removes it from wildland certification. Related many of the Venders can provide training for agency decontamination techniques.

Robinson – Pelican Products – Relates they support many products for Fire Service. They have numerous lighting devices and power supplies for FD Use. Manufacture of numerous types of protective cases.

Keith Gurrola – Fillmore FD – Related the Fillmore FD budget has been set, their fire foundation golf tour was a success. He needs to purchase gear for 18 new recruits. Received a FEMA Safety Grant – will have three new paid Firefighter positions.

 They had a FF take his PPE in for alteration without authorization – he considers the incident a “near –miss” for his dept

** FF Memorial will be September 30th in Sacramento..

Los Osos Symposium on PPE (Vender Driven Event) was a good event with relavent information for the end users.

Santa Paula FD is merging with Ventura Co. FD. Much SPFD gear will be excess and will be available. They also have a Light / Air Trailer that will be available.

NEXT MEETING September 15th – Location and topic to be announced

San Diego – Behavioral Health – October

 

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)             

           

Agency / Co                              NAME                               PHONE #                                  EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)       Chuck Seely               (949) 492-7993                   firebiz@att.net

Air Exchange PLYMOVENT   Steve Harris           909-973-8211                steveh@airexchange.com

Air Exchange PLYMOVENT     Jim Cleary          909-720-7064                 jtc1@roadrunner.com

OCFA                                        Russ Snider                 714-573-6601                     russsnider@ocfa.org

Camp Pendleton(Retired)    Jeff Wilkerson         949-445-9512                   jwilker@cox.net

Qualatel                                   Frank Uram                 858-577-2900                furam@qualatel.com

Ca fire museum & safety learning center   stevehoyle949-496-5688       stbear@cox.net

Santa Monica Fire        Sean Van Sluis             949-702-3473                 sean.vansluis@smgov.net

OCFA                                 Jonathan Wilby         714-573-6832                       jonathanwilby@ocfa.org

Scott Safety                   Steve Hanks                858-226-7420                          sthanks@tycoint.com

  SOCAL PPE    DOUG MURPHY/melissa MAGEE   619-993-1163              murph@socalppe.com

WESTERN STATES FIRE EQUIP   LOUIE GARCIA   213-272-5680           lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

Atwood-Prior          Tom Martin            909-264-4875                             tmartin@repagency.host

LION                              Michelle Trout                     480-225-1324                  mtrout@lionprotects.com

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment      Tracy Rabe    949-230-5610                  tracy@linegear.com

Veridian Fire Protective Gear    Kirk Owen       712-260-3547                        kirk@veridian.net

MES                              Lazaro Martinez               562-320-2385                       lmartinez@mesfire.com

MES                                    John Price                     562-212-6803                            jprice@mesfire.com

Bestway Laundry Solutions          Eric Higgins951-532-7700                        sales@bestwayls.com

CURTIS Tools For Heros            Ed Shabro          760-250-1180                        eshabro@lncurtis.com

fillmore fire poi         sebastian ramirez             805-2975214    sebastian ramirez@fillmorefire.com

Fillmore Fire Dept      Keith Gurrola         805-558-0932                          keithg@ci.fillmore.ca.us

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - July 2017

 

SAFER Meeting Minutes

July 21, 2017

SAFER Board Attendees:   Past President Duran, VP Quinn,  Wilkerson,  Seely, Quinn, Vender Liaison Sposato

AllStar Fire Equipment

0940    Meeting called to order - Past President Tony Duran welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, Thanks to AllStar Fire Equipment Company for use of the facility and  to Lion apparel and SCOTT Breathing Apparatus for the morning / lunch hospitality.   

Tony introduced B/C Scott Quinn LAFD, who will deliver today’s program:

Program: “Drive to Survive”

Related his experiences as Safety Officer and Litigation Officer. Related the program scheduled for last month (Behavioral Health) is very relevant to present day FD’s and will be rescheduled in the future.

B/C Quinn related LAFD practices (pre-trip, licencing and operators role / responsibilities) documentation. The issue of length of operation , relief policy, drivers health and distractions while driving are frequesnt issues brought up in court cases.

A PowerPoint presentation was shown that demonstrated the myriad of characteristics that make up safe driver / operator practices.

Regional Training Authority: LAFD is doing EVOC training (Computer simulation and hands on handling) may be available to RTA members.

Typical Accident litigation takes about three years and is a nightmare for all involved.

All new apparatus are equipped with a “Black Box” that collects data on the vehicles operation.

(Insert PowerPoint Here)

Orange County Fire Authority will host the August SAFER Meeting. The topic will be “An Organizational Look at Cancer- Awareness and Prevention” presented by OCFA / Risk Manager Jonathan Wilby.

Joe: working on getting improved access to website to post meeting notifications earlier

Committee Reports:

Scott Hudson – OSHA Updates: Hemet FD Retired. New standard for silica sand exposure adopted by FED OSHA, CalOSHA to (TWA is based on 4 hour window of exposure). Emergency Ops allows for 24 hour period for RESCUE. Need Training, Policies and practices in place. Will be released for enforcement later this year.

New standards for Storage batteries (for backup systems) has a requirement for training and operational policies. 

Indoor heat illness standard being developed by CalOSHA for implementation next year.

New “phone” notification standard for CalOSHA is being planned to clarify employers requirement(s) for timely notification of industrial accidents.

Heat-Illness injury minimum fine is $17,000.

Workplace violence reporting requirement is “in effect” but not widely known by employers.

Employee Evacuation Plan – One for each “risk” identified, standard being developed

New standards for chop saws, protective shrouds / guards is being developed for industrial applications.

SRIA- Independent review of proposed standards (SB 617).

Nat Safety Council rates CA a “C” on workplace safety.

NIOSH has a heat illness app for download.

CalOSHA Increasing penalies: Minor $7,000 to $10,000, serious increases to XXXX, resulting from Fed OSHA stating that CalOSHA is too linient.

Gender Toilets: State legislation required an amount of toilets available for the workplace

Zika carrying mosquitos have been identified in 11 Counties in CA.

New forklift standards for “non-lift” positioning.

Capt. Jordan relates it’s important for a liaison to accompany employees to hospital in insure medical staff doesn’t label illness as “heat illness / injury” instead of “heat exhaustion”.

Tony related if CalOSHA conducts an investigation for a specific issue they have heads on swivel as they conduct the inspection – EVERYTHING is under scrutiny.

Equipment:

Rosenbauer is conducting  “electric apparatus” testing.

Vender Liaison:

Thanks to the venders for attending and contributing to the SAFER Organization.

Technology:

Tony – Looking to improve web site, timely meeting notifications and enhanced content are several themes to be addressed.

Treasures Report: Tony for

$467.86 / $1,114.88 Checking

Expenses for NFPA membership and Dick Weise travel.

 

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

RoundTable:

John Henderson Torrance

Jeff Wilkerson Camp Penaton Fire , All apparatus have cameras front, rear and inside to document apparatus operation , related seat belt enforcement and policy enforcement.

Steve Hoyle – ORCO retired, California Fire Museum.

Capt.Langer Vernon – Recently appointed as New Apparatus and Equipment Officer.

Curt Johnson – Tempest and Leader are now one company after a recent acquisition / merger.

John Price LACoFD Retired – Now MES representation, related “Attitude and Accelerator”

Jordan LACoFD –

Scott McLaren CalFIRE Riverside – Has finalized driving policy to meet modern traffic needs, added a second engine to T/C’s. CalFire Riverside has developed a check-list for traffic investigations. Agency has updated its EMS dispatching protocol’s (EMD). CalFire Riverside will be implementing a similar triage program for “Fire” responses in the future. Using code 2 response’s when appropriate to limit / reduce code 3 accidents.

Scott – Fillmore fire.

Chris Murdock – LACoFD Retired, Rio Hondo Fire Academy – Reminds that there is liability issues that can effct

Lim Clearly – Plymovent – Related he learns something at every SAFER meeting he attends. Company is doing a lot of conversions of older systems to newer product

Eric Higgins – BestWay Laundry systems – Has installed 10 systems this month.

Bill Ward – Pinical Bod – Has an order from Long Beach FD for a new upgraded POD unit that will accommodate aerial and nozzle testing needs. Water districts are interested in using their tanks (PODS) to save water when using testing

Louie Garcia Western States – Has new glove arriving, Ford Explorer’s have been identified as having a CO problem – Officers found with CO illness nationally. Found to be largely associated with modifications for Public Safety users.

Jack Koltaj - Ventura County – Crew reductions are occurring, island stations use JP5 for fuel

Russ Snider ORCO – Just graduated 24 “lateral” class, new engines,”quints” (some found to be overweight)

Tom Martin – Multi-line Manufactures Rep – Related some new HazMat app to better identify the proper PPE configuration for specific chemicals. Has new” Action Wipes”,  not a repackaging of baby wipes.  This wipe is specifically designed for active adults started in the outdoor sporting market. These wipes are designed to be used by persons “on line” for multiple days. Related they are showing a small washer for ppe. Kappler, wide range of chemical protective ppe:  The frontline 500 level A suit has a new larger non fog visor to increase visibility. A smart device app is available to generate risk assessment reports “ HazMatch”.  Turnout gear chem response overshot protects turnout gear from chemical contamination. Checkers ground level safety has hose ramps, electrical cabling ramps, wheel chocks speed bumps - Poly cribbing. Has Groves and single unit extractor 20 lbs. For turnout gear, hoods, woodland gear and are great for smaller departments and remote stations. 

Scott Hudson – Hemet Retired – City has passed a 1% tax to fund Police / Fire in the city. Has new B/C’s (1 from Grand Junction CO. ) Related the concept that code 3 driving is dangerous if you make it dangerous, but some accidents are simply unavoidable.

Davis Mul – Industrial Scientific – Related the CalOSHA “compliance” issues after an incident. He relates his job is to make sure the equipment is operating properly and to train the end user in it

Gevork Kazanchyan - LACo Risk Management – Working to implement the Workplace Violence Reporting standard. Working to define “work Place” definition (in the ambulance, in the facility etc.) and how they can comply “globally”.

Frank Orum – QualTel Communications – Discussed the various communications systems he installs / services: Headsets, wireless intercom and radio systems. 

Tony Duran LACoFD Retired – NH3 Training Institute – Teaches Industry and First Responders how to work with Anhydrous ammonia. He is planning dates for training Anaheim and Downey Fire Departments. Tony can facilitate training programs for NH3 operational training needs.

Scott Quinn – LAFD B/C – Budget approved for agency. Crews are working tons of OT, will be hiring more in the future. Related their recent LODD (Kelly Wong) and how the incident has impacted their operations. Department is cooperating with CalOSHA in the investigation to improve future firefighter safety.

Joe Sposado – AllStar – Related recent 4th place finish of the AllStar Porche in Utah. He related recent observations of people “texting” (leaving space – driving slow so as to text), (cars that drift the correct) these are people that are texting while driving. AllStar has won the contract with CalFire to supply them with SCOTT SCBA’s. They are switching from MSA SCBA’s. Particulate Hood for FF’s is now available that GORE Developed. Has particulate protection (99% effective) that is not vapor barrier. (see GORE online).Joe recommends writing your name on the front of the hood to insure proper donning pro-8cedures.

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)             

Agency / Co        NAME            PHONE #       EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)   Chuck Seely(949) 492-7993      firebiz@att.net

c alifornia fire museumsteve hoyle    9494965688       stbear@cox.net

PLYMOVENT/AIR EXCHJIM CLEAERY909-720-7064

Camp Pendleton Fire ret.  Jeff Wilkerson 949-830-087   jwilker@cox.net

Quala-Tel Communications Frank Uram858-577-2900 furam@qualatel.com

ASTI   Tony Duran   626-590-2991   Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com

Hemet Fire Dept. Ret.  Scott Hudson951-694-2591 scotth1902@gmail.com

VERNON Fire   Mike Langer    951-775-2058   mlanger@ci.vernon.ca.us

Torrance Fire   Jon Henderson   310-977-5619 Jhenderson@torranceca.gov

Western States Fire EqupLouie Garcia213-272-5680 lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

Leader Emergency VehiclesGeoff Maze626-377-2931 geoff.maze@leader-ambulance.com

MESJohn Price   562-212-68703   jprice@mesfire.com

Atwood-Prior Inc    Tom Martin   909-264-4875 tmartin.specialist@gmail.com

Safety ComponentsBill Black858-243-4371 bblack@safetycomponents.com

LA County Fire RetiredChris Marangakis562-553-2619 chris.marangakis@gmail.com

Tempest / Leader   Curt Johnson   559269-7773   curt@tempest.us.com

LA County CEO Risk ManagementGevork Kazanchyan 213.351.6408 gkazanchyan@ceo.lacounty.gov

Fed Fire Ventura CountyJack Koltaj805-989-7043 jack.koltaj@navy.mil

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - April 2017

 

SAFER Meeting Minutes

April 21, 2017

SAFER Board Attendees:   Pres Gurrola, Vice Pres Weise, Quinn, Seely, Wilkerson

Santa Monica Fire Department

Santa Monica Library

0950:   Meeting called to order - President Gurrola, Fillmore Fire Chief, welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, Thanks to the City of Santa Monica for use of the facility and AllStar Fire Equipment for morning bagels and coffee.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

Business Meeting:

Finance: No report at meeting, a detailed report was submitted to board via email from Past Pres Duran.

 

OSHA: ”Violence against first responders” reporting– Agencies must maintain a Log / Journal , (similar to a “300 Log”) beginning April 1st, 2017 of incidents involving:  (1) Member on Member, (2)Violence on  first responder from public, (3) Dog Bites.  April 2018: All members must be trained. LAFD has started a log to begin implementation.

Acceptance of NFPA standards by CalOSHA is pending “cost analysis “review by legislature as it will place burden on local government agencies. (Un-funded Mandate)

NFPA: Dick Weise – SAFER rep to 1977, (1877 Document is a SCAM doc for wildland): Committee is looking at Dozer Operator gloves, FR boot laces, “vented helmets”. Dual compliant Station-Wildland pants are out to bid for LACoFD. All helmet liners/support elements must be easily removable for proper decontamination. IAFF is pushing a Cancer Prevention program. 1971 (Structure and Proximity) updates to include systems to protect from particulates through “Hood” elements and THL standard.

“Healthy In – Healthy Out” programs are being implemented throughout the fire service.

FIRESCOPE: Chief Reyes - LAFD: Discussed the “flagging tape” colors and their meanings and the efforts underway to standardize its uses. Smoke/inhalation issues are being looked at and the desire to NOT cover other standard developers. Recommends attending “Safety Officers Conference” (3-Days), receive updates from experts and agency representatives from CalFire, aviation ops, Incident Management – Leadership. 

FDIC next week in Indianapolis.  Document # 215A updated and on website.

Apparatus: No report. One attendee related they’d experienced some LDH (4”) delaminate.

Technology: No report

Venders: FDIC Next week in Indianapolis.

“Foresters and Fire Wardens”: Pilgrim Pines (Oak Glen) May 4 &5th, 2017

 

  • Program: Fire Service working at Tactical Law Enforcement Incidents

Presenter: B/C Don Reyes – LAFD – Homeland Security Division & FIRESCOPE

Reference FIRESCOPE ICS 701 Document, Revised June 23, 2015 or newer

  • History : (Columbine Incident was impetus – Immediate Action Tactics developed)

  • Pre Incident Considerations

  • Initial Actions Tactical Considerations

  • Staging

  • Tactical Context

  • Working with Law/SWAT

  • Nomenclature

  • The Bid One

What is a Tactical Law Enforcement Incident?

  1. Active Shooter, Hostage Taker, Barricaded Suspect

  2. Suspect with explosives

  3. Perimeter Search

  4. MACTAC / Combat Coordinated Attack

  5. ICS 701

TEMS: Tactical Emergency Medical Support:

Section redacted

Pre-Incident Considerations:

  • Pre-Incident Relationships

  • Training:

  • FRO

  • Active Shooter

  • MACTAC

  • PPE and Equipment

  • Adapting other SOG’s

  • Other Agency needs (Public Schools, airport other “stake-holders”)

  • Public Information and Incident Messaging (Social Media)

     

  • Blue Force Tracking being developed for public safety

Initial Actions:

  • Confirm Incident Type

  • Co-locate with LAW OIC/IC

  • Establish Unified Command:

  • ID Hot/Warm/ Cold Zones

  • Create RTF’s

  • Request Additional Resources

  • Create Notification Area with Dispatch (to control access to incident area)

  • Communication Plan

  • Inter-Agency Communication

  • Rescue Group Supervisor

  • Med Communications

  • Med Group Supervisor

  • Fire Group

Tactical Considerations:

Section redacted

 Staging:

 Section redacted

Tactical Context:

Risk Assessment:

  • ID HOT/WARM/COLD zones

  • Viable Victims

  • What Can we Accomplish?

PACE:

  • Primary Plan

  • Alternate Plan

  • Contingency Plan

  • Emergency Plan

LCES:

Does each agency have same criteria?

Comm Plan

Interagency Communications

 

Working with Law/SWAT:

  • The Officer in Charge

  • Mutual Support

  • Unified Command

  • Briefing(s)

  • Medical Plan & CCP (Casualty Collection Point)

  • Force Protection

  • Fire Plan

     

  • Discussion on ISIS publications and the JRIC info products being distributed to Law/Fire Agencies. Push Publications are developed for reasons, not just on a time-table.  

( LAFD) Working withLAW/SWAT/TEMS:

Section redacted

Terminology:

Section redacted

 

MACTAC Considerations:

  • Tactical Areas (Notification Areas)

  • Incident Facilities Locations

  • Maximum Commitment

  • California Mutual Aid

  • Federal Assets

 

Meeting recessed to Vender Time at 1125

Meeting reconvened at 1145 for roundtable

Roundtable:

Dick Weise – Predicts active fire season, drills coming up. KME Quints coming soon. Replacing many “plastic interior parts” from rigs to reduce off gassing

Weisenburg – Ventura County Fire – Class of recruits going through, need medics, 5 Rosenbowers Type 1’s, 1 Quint ordered. Next Month BBQ at SAFER meeting. Two years till next retirement

Crystal – Fillmore / Ventura Federal FF’s – Hiring six

Scott Quinn – LAFD B/C – Castro Retired last week, slowing drill towers to two per year. Has had 4” LDH separating.  LAFD had a large fire on the Vernon border in a food processing plant.

Had a kid making pipe bombs in a neighborhood. Was injured.

 LAFD responded to Murrieta Georgia FF’s accident that was fatal. The guy had just toured the fire station that responded to the incident. LAFD provided “honor guard” to the coroner, then the funeral home and finally to the airport. Provided family support to the friends / family from Georgia.

Kirk Owen – Veridian PPE – Will be at FDIC next week introducing a new generation FF Glove.

Jack K Ventura Federal FF – Looking for Chief to

Don Reyes – LAFD –

Jeff Wilkerson May 10th, Camp Pendelton Dozer School May 1, 2017, CalFIRE. 1st Week in June – Fire School.

Steve Hoyle – ORCO (Retired) – Fire Museum – Related the loss of agency history, experience

Bill Ward – Pump recovery system – Saves water while allowing real world training opportunities.

Tracy Rabe - Fire Rescue Equipment – Rep’s footwear and workrite uniforms.

Rick Holman – AllStar Fire Equipment – Will be at FDIC. Scott bought by 3-M

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment - :LaHabra Heights looking at Rosenbouer Type 1 and 3 appratus. Has a new glove to show at FDIC.

Tom Martin – Atwood-Prior , Inc. - Factory Rep’s for Pelican, others. Has Sun Block, Insect repellant, mounting brackets. Showed a new foam cartridge nozzle.

Jim Cleary – Plymovent – ORCO 61 burned, 61 on a call when they responded to their station for a reported structure fire. Contract just signed to have it rebuilt.

Eric Higgins – BestWay Laundry- Related he’d have a “Scanning Program” to track PPE laundering for 1851 compliance.

John Price – LACoFD (Retired) – MES PPE Expert

Rob Span Ventura County Fire –

Frank QualTel – Showed the wireless headset / transmitter to interface with rig radio and intercom. 

Lazaro Martinez – MES – PPE, equipment for Law and Fire Services. Has InfraRed cameras and Scope for USA

Davis A – Industrial Scientific – Related the company and the industry they service. Gas detection equipment and chemical monitoring.

Keith Gurrola – Fillmore FD – Will be hiring FF’s after current group is fully integrated. Annual Golf tournament will be June 3rd, 2017.

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

 

Agency / Co                           NAME                 PHONE #              EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)    Chuck Seely    (949) 492-7993     firebiz@att.net

c alifornia fire museum   steve hoyle       9494965688        stbear@cox.net

PLYMOVENT/AIR EX    JIM CLEAERY    909-720-7064

Camp Pendleton Fire ret.  Jeff Wilkerson949-830-087    jwilker@cox.net

Quala-Tel Communications    Frank Uram 858 577-2900      furam@qualatel.com   

Los Angeles Fire Dept  Scott Quinn213-434-1380 scott.quinn@lacity.org

Los Angeles County Fire Dick Weise 951-807-1914

rweiselacofd@yahoo.com

Municipal Emergency ServicesLaz Martinez     lmartinez@mesfire.com

Atwood-Prior/Pelican Products Tom Martin 909-264-4875

tmartin@firebrigade.com

Louie GarciaLouie Garcia213-272-5680   lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

Industrial ScientificDavid Molinatti714-403-1915 dmolinatti@indsci.com

Torrance Fire Dept.  Tim McAtee     310-344-1490

 Santa Barbara County Fire Dept.  Michael Klusyk   805-896-6337

Ventura City Fire DeptLuis Manzano   805-256-8533

Veridian Fire Protective GearKirk Owen 712-260-3547 kirk@veridian.net

Fillmore Fire Department Crystal Rhoden 805-701-5891

Swangemini6@yahoo.com

Los Angeles Fire DepartmentDon Reyes 213359-1054 donald.reyes@lacity.org

Fillmore Fire Department Keith Gurrola 8055580932 keithg@ci.fillmore.ca.us

Bestway Laundry Solutions Eric higgins 18005426166

sales@bestwayls.com

Federal Fire Ventura County Jack Koltaj 805 989-2373 jack.koltaj@navy.mil

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equip Tracy Rabe 949-709-8808

tracy@linegear.com

Pump Pod USA        Bil Ward    949-246-6999     bill@liqui-pod.com

MES                             John Price   562-212-6803   jrpice@mesfire.com

Allstar Fire Equip.    Rick Homan   626-255-0434rickh@allstarfire.com

Los Angeles Fire Dept     Scott Quinn213-434-1380

scott.quinn@lacity.org

 

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - March 2017

 

SAFER Meeting Minutes

March 17, 2017

SAFER Board Attendees:   Pres Gurrola,Vice Pres Quinn, Past Pres. Duran, Seely, Sczcepanek, Cardenas,  Vender Liaison Sposato

Fillmore Fire Department

Fillmore City Hall

0945    Meeting called to order - President Gurrola, Fillmore Fire Chief, welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, Thanks to the City of Fillmore for use of the facility and Louie Garcia of  Western States Fire Equipment for morning bagels and coffee,  the” Fillmore Fire Foundation” for BBQ lunch.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

Business Meeting:

Finance: $467.65 savings, $1000+/- in checking. Tony encouraged all to pay their dues (on line or by check). We’d like to hire a web-master to handle some of those updates as required. Our expenses include support of NFPA committees.

OSHA: ” Violence against first responders” reporting– Agencies must maintain a Log / Journal , (similar to a “300 Log”) beginning April 1st, 2017 of incidents involving:  (1) Member on Member, (2)Violence on  first responder from public, (3) Dog Bites.  April 2018: All members must be trained.

NFPA: Jim Evans:  1851 Committee met to consider public input and begin drafting new standard. Available on-line for review. “At incident cleaning” will be addressed in the new 1851 standard. * AB2146 (Cal) is going to make 1851 ‘Law” in California. A discussion on AB 2146 followed: Cost to implement, gov’t un-funded mandate issue, Grant opportunities to cover PPE and laundering facilities, the “10 year Rule” (maximum life-span of PPE). The act will have a five year phase-in period. Year one will have requirement to conduct “Advanced Inspection” and “Annual Inspections”. Helmets are high on list for replacement to CalOSHA approved gear.  

Apparatus: No report today. Joe added there has been a consolidation of ambulance companies into REVONE: a public company who bought several major manufacturers including KME and E-1 manufacturing.  

Technology: Discussion on the web-site work.

Venders: FDIC In Indianapolis Joe recommends everyone attend at least once, it’s the best look at all the equipment available in the market place.  April 26th thru 30th, 2017.

 

  • Program: Initial Accident Investigations- a Guide for Incident Safety Officers

Presenter: Brian Bulger - Ventura County Fire Department (Retired) , Incident Safety Officer

            Insert program PP/PDF

Presentation opened with demonstration to represent a group of people with observable skill sets but who don’t routinely work together (similar to resources assigned to an incident):

 A display of 6 individuals performing a task as directed by a “supervisor” who provided specific instructions on the task to be completed (a 7’ stick exercise). The exercise demonstrated the difficulty in coordinating a group of “experts” to complete a series of tasks using DIRECTIONS ONLY, then demonstrated the observable improvements in task completion with LEADERSHIP ADDED (pushing the stick down to establish momentum towards successful completion).  Discussion on “leadership” and “Followership” roles in a program.

Tony Duran then related his experience’s investigating numerous accident investigations while working for LACoFD as a Safety Officer. Many times another agency will take the “Lead Investigative Role” to cancel out any biases or favoritism. 

Scott Quinn related some helpful tips:

  • Don’t call it an ACCIDENT, it’s always referred to as n INCIUDENT.

  • Maintain the demeanor that were trying to resolve a safety matter, not a disciplinary matter – even though a disciplinary action may come if warranted.

Hand-Out:

PREPARING FOR THE INTERVIEW

  1. Review any previous similar statement or evidence available.

  2. Make a written or mental note of “Known” issues.

  3. Make a written or mental note of the “Need to Know” issues.

INTRODUCTION

  1. Properly identify yourself.

  2. Give reason for interview without disclosing case details.

  3. Conduct interview with all witnesses.

ESTABLISHING A REPORE

  1. Comment on topics of apparent interest to the interviewee.

  2. Establish confidence by friendly confidence – downplay the investigator roles.

  3. Keep conversation informal and easy.

  4. Be pleasant and avoid unpleasant expressions.

  5. Tape record interview, if possible.

SAMPLE OF QUESTIONS TO ASK

  1. State date, time, place of interview, name of interviewer and interviewee.

  2. Have interviewee acknowledge and and permit tape recording of interview for the record.

  3. Have interviewee state occupation and any technical background.

  4. Ask Interviewee of what he / she heard or observed that was unusual before or after the accident / investigation.
    Have interviewee describe what happened.

  5. Ask for other witnesses.

NOTE:  EMPLOYEES ARE ENTITLED TO HAVE EMPLOYEE REPRESENTATION UPON REQUEST – ie Union Rep.

AFTER INTERVIEW

  1. Label all taped cassettes / notes and secure a “CONFIDENTIAL” marked enveloped. Forward to the Departments Safety Office.

DUTY SAFETY OFFICER

ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION GUIDELINES

(VEHICLE AND INJURY)

ISOLATE SCENE

  1. Obtain Briefing from Incident Commander.

  2. Secure the scene with barricade tape – utilize Police or Department personnel or other assistance.

EVIDENCE

  1. Photograph:

    1. Major Incident – Department photographer

    2. Routine Incident – Disposable (Digital or Smart Phone)

  2. Diagram and measure the scene

  3. Account for any movement of physical evidence.

  4. Vehicle accidents and potential criminal circumstances – local police agency in charge of investigation and evidence.

WITNESSES

  1. Name, address, work and home telephone numbers.

  2. Their location at the time of the accident.

INTERVIEWS:

  1. Interviews conducted by the Duty Safety Officer are to be considered FACT FINDING in nature only. Fact finding issues are those related to the following items:

  2. Equipment Performance

  3. Safety Practice

  4. Standard Techniques

  5. Training

  6. Issues of a non-punitive nature

  7. If, for any reason, during the interview it is discovered that wrongdoing or gross negligence were factors in the accident, the interview process shall cease immediately and the Department of Human Resources shall be contacted for direction. This action is to preclude any violation of the employees’ rights.

 

Three “categories / things” Safety Officers should classify:

  1. Items – Things we all can discuss without specifics

  2. Concerns – An observed risk / hazard we all can discuss and determine a “best case” solution.

  3. Issues – Already happened

     

  • Who owns the problem? Critical Factor in analysis of accident. The more complex the incident the more difficult the analysis.

  • Route Cause Analysis – Un-layering to the most basic task level

  • Swiss Cheese analogy (one slice – see light, add additional slices and less shines through).

  • Seven coinciding events that lead to an accident (USAF)

  • Who owns the problem? Related his experience with a burn-over (Rucker – Cedar Fire) that occurred outside of Julian, Ca.: Extinguished FF’s burning body, took photos and notes on situation. Didn’t know who was “in –charge” as the incident hadn’t built to a complete incident command structure.

  • Utilize “Job aides” (Lap top, forms) to help document and format the investigative pathway going forward.

  • Have checklists, similar investigative documents from prior incidents.

  • Your Expectations: Have a good an idea what you want to accomplish on an investigation, understanding your investigation may simply “attach” to another agencies investigation when they have a larger / more appropriate level of investigation.

  • Discussion of CalOSHA’s role:

  • Uses the :SOP’s, standards from “host agency / jurisdiction” to apply.

 

 

Meeting recessed to Vender Time at 1125

Meeting reconvened at 1145 for roundtable

  • Board of Supervisor Kelly Longer addressed the meeting and expressed appreciation for our work on behalf of employee and health safety.

Roundtable:

Steve Hoyle – CalFire / OCFDCa Fire Museum and learning center. Encourages out-reach to the Irvine City Council @ CityofIrvine.org  to support the California Fire Museum in the future Great Park.  

Jeff Wilkerson – Camp Pendleton Fire Department (Retired) – Relates the use of flags over deceased is not allowed in federal incidents.  

Capt Cardenas – LAFD Safety Coordinator – Numerous promotions (60) in the LAFD all the way up the ranks. Running two academies now, will trim to one next year. Working on an “Overhaul Committee” to consider how the agency leaves fire scenes to minimize toxic exposures to crews. They want to eliminate or at least minimize overhaul in the future. He related some issues with gasoline fueled smoke ejectors as a source of CO. Related / reminded attendees of the Federal death benefit for ff families.

Scott Quinn – AC LAFD – Added to the discussion on overhaul and it’s connection to Cancer in FF’s. LAFD now has psychologists to help with FF Health issues.

Scott  Bethurum  - CAL Fire Riverside – Related they’ve recently installed extractors (31 sites so far) to help with 1851 PPE laundering. Recently received an $18,000 citation for not providing adequate water in a heat illness incident. Discussion followed with agency representatives with experience fighting CalOSHA citations relating their advice. 

Don Reyes LAFD – World Fire Police Games – August7-16th web site: Related information available at the website: la17wpfg.com, opening ceremony at the LA Coliseum.   

Tony Duran –ASTI -  LACoFD (Retired) – Related ASTI teaches agencies on the response to Anhydrous ammonia incidents. Adds the only rescue from an NH3 incident will be by first responders in 1872 PPE with SCBA as waiting for a reinforced response by HazMateers with class A suits will be too late to save a victim.

Brian Bulger – Retired and enjoying life!

Joe Sposato- AllStar – SCOTT being purchased by 3M, ($2 Billion), 3M known for innovation and allowing its daughter companies to operated unhindered. SCOTT Thermal Imager available. Lion apparel V-Force Turn-Out available. Future is focused on keeping PPE CLEAN for FF health. Phoenix Helmets have new head pads for the inside top.

Mike Klusyk - Santa Barbara County Fire – Works on stations and grounds, Chair of Safety Specialist Group with FIRESCOPE. Expecting a severe fire season due to heavy rains this year. SART

John Flores – Santa Monica Fire – Organizing PPE program, purchases, maintenance etc.

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment – Discussed “SMART” vehicles and the requirements for monitoring equipment to document the operation of all commercial vehicles. More info should be available at FDIC. Western States Fire Equipment represent “Rosenbauer” apparatus.

Tim Macee –Torrance Fire Dept. – Safety Committee member in Torrance. Recently attended IAFF Legislative Conference in DC, Discussed the conference and the Torrance refinery issues which use HF in their production of hydrocarbon products.  All Torrance personnel use “station shoes” (black tennis shoes) when they leave the rig to eliminate blood borne pathogens etc. from station / quarters and are removing 80% of station carpeting. “Fire” gear gets removed prior to entering quarters and bagged for cleaning. “Fire Hood Fridays” is a local standard developed to ensure protective hoods are maintained in a clean condition.

Kevin Schroepfer - Oxnard Fire Department – Initiative to support: ”Clean Fire Station” programs: assigns two hoods / man to ensure protective hoods are maintained in a clean condition .

Rob Szczepanek - Ventura County FD has all Rosenbauer apparatus, purchase a quint, water recycling trailers has saved millions of gallons of water while training – drilling. Had a “heat related” illness that was reported as “Heat Exhaustion” which should not be used as were not Ds – we do not diagnose.

Steve Cooley – COBRA Litter – will have a sample at next meeting that addresses the enhancements requested by SAFER members.

Jim Clearey – Plymovent Air Exchange – Related diesel exhaust is the only listed carcinogen FF’s are exposed to everyday in the worked place. WHO has now stated diesel exhaust is a hazard as a carcinogen.

David Molinatti - Industrial Scientific – Related 35k times users have turned off their (4-gas) monitors while in alarm mode. Some relate they found the alarm distracting others related they didn’t know what to do in response to the alarm. New IS monitors actually annunciate what actions the user should take when in alarm. 

Eric Higgins – BestWay Laundry – New scanner capability to track and monitor equipment settings for proper laundering to be shown at FDIC in April.

Ryan Johnson – SoCal PPE Laundry – Class in June for PPE Class will train FF’s to conduct in house PPE inspections. Look for details.

Alexis Labbe’ – Leader Fire Equipment Supply – Discussed their company and the products they represent. Will have a booth at FDIC. Has a new line of nozzles being tested at North Net in Anaheim. Has Search-Cam equipment, FOAM supplies and rescue equipment for USAR work.

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety – Commented on the meeting today and expressed appreciation for the efforts on SAFETY being made across the nation. Related the Hood problem and related several solutions to eliminate the toxicity being detected.  Related each wash needs 3 x rinses per wash.

Keith Gurrola- Fillmore Fire – Next month’s meeting M A Y be in San Dimas Forestry HQ. or Santa Monica

May meeting is scheduled for  Ventura county Fire  

1145 Meeting adjourned to BBQ lunch hosted by Fillmore Fire Foundation.

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co                 NAME              PHONE #                      EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)      Chuck Seely     (949) 492-7993             firebiz@att.net  California fire muaseum    steve hoyle        9494965688                 stbear@cox.net

PLYMOVENT/AIR EXCH   JIM CLEAERY   909-720-7064

Camp Pendleton Fire ret. Jeff Wilkerson 949-830-087           jwilker@cox.net

ASTI    LACoFD Retired   Tony Duran              Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com

Los Angeles Fire Dept    Scott Quinn   213-434-1380     scott.quinn@lacity.org

CAL FIRE/ RCoFD   Scott Bethurum    951-575-5391 scott.bethurum@fire.ca.gov

Western States Fire EquipLouie Garcia   213-272-5680     lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

Fillmore Fire      Keith Gurrola    805-558-0932         keithg@ci.fillmore.ca.us

Santa Monica Fire     John Flores    805-236-5633        john.flores@smgov.net

Industrial Scientific    David Molinatti    714-403-1915     dmolinatti@indsci.com

Cobra Litters        Steve Cooley       805-377-5348           coolnco@aol.com

Torrance Fire Dept.    Tim McAtee     310-344-1490      tmcatee@torranceca.gov

Santa Barbara Co Fire Dept.  Michael Klusyk805-896-6337m.klusyk@sbcfire.com

Ventura City Fire DeptLuis Manzano805-256-8533   lmanzano@cityofventura.net

PLYMOVENT/AIR EXCHANGEJIM CLEARY 909-720-7064jcleary@airexcvhange.com

Solutions Safety     Jim Evans 770-634-0848      jime@solutionssafety.com

SoCal PPE   Ryan Johnson   619-993-1164         ryan@socalppe.com

Los Angeles Fire Department     Don Reyes    213359-1054   donald.reyes@lacity.org

Los Angeles Fire Department    John Cardenas   661-917-7019 john.cardenas@lacity.org

Bestway Laundry SolutionsEric higgins18005426166     sales@bestwayls.com

oxnard    Kevin.Schroepfer     805385-7709``    kevin,schroepfer@oxnard.org

VCFD     Robert Szczepanek   805-914-4021       Robert.Szczepanek@ventura.org

SAFER Annual Board Meeting Minutes January 20, 2017

SAFER Board Meeting

January 20, 2017

LACoFD Camp 2

1200       SAFER Board Meeting at the conclusion of the scheduled January SAFER Meeting.

The following notes are submitted by Out Going President Ells Fortman:

SAFER BOD,

First off, I want to thank you all for the support over the last two years and for allowing me the opportunity to serve as your President of this fantastic organization.  It has been a great experience and I will always cherish the relationships we have forged.

That all being said, I am very proud to present The Filmore Fire Chief, Keith Gurrola as your SAFER President for 2017-2018.

The following is a list of the 2017-2018 BOD:

• President - Keith Gurrola

• Vice President - Scott Quinn

• Secretary - Chuck Seely

• Vendor Liaison - Joe Spasato

• Immediate Past President - Ellsworth Fortman

• Treasurer - Tony Duran

• Webmaster - Jan Stance (Outgoing, replacement needed)

• Director - Mike Weisenberg

• Director - Rob Sczcepanek

• Director - Richard Weiss

• Director - Russ Snider

• Director - John Cardenas

• Director - Rick Griggs

• Director - Scott Schuster

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - January 2017

 

SAFER Meeting Minutes

January 20, 2017

SAFER Board Attendees:   Pres Fortman, VP Weise,Past Presidents Dolan,   Seely, Quinn, Gurrola, Vender Liaison Sposato

Los Angeles County  Fire Department

Fire Camp 2   

1010    Meeting called to order -  President B/C Fortman LAFD welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, Thanks to Los Angeles County Fire Department for use of the facility for morning snacks and coffee.

SAFER will introduce todays program and forego the usual business meeting as the annual Board of Directors meeting will be held immediately after the scheduled monthly SAFER meeting.

Pres Fortman related the importance of SAFER and the relationships it fosters to further safety in the Fire Family”. He congratulated Board Member Scott Quinn on his recent promotion to Battalion Chief with the Los Angeles Fire Department.

Pres Fortman introduced our program presenter, Chief Kirk Owen, relating his appreciation for the assistance he provided in developing the LAFD PPE program.

1015    VP Dick Weise opened the SAFER meeting and led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

 

  • Program: NFPA 1851

  • Past, Present and Future

Presenter: Chief Kirk Owen, Plano Texas Fire Department (Retired)

            Former Chair of NFPA 1971 / 1851 Committee, Regional Sales Manager, Veridian

  • Insert program PDF

1877 – Selection, Care and Maintenance of Wildland PPE

1851 covers PPE found in the 1971 Standard

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

 

 

Agency / Co                         NAME                       PHONE #                              EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)        Chuck Seely (949) 492-7993    firebiz@att.net

PLYMOVENT/AIR EXCHANGE   steve harris       909-973-8211                steveh@airexchange.com

PLYMOVENT/AIR EXCHANGE   JIM CLEAERY   909-720-7064            jtc1@roadrunner.com

ASTI       Tony Duran  626-590-2991     Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com

Allstar Fire    Stuart Lovi        626-255-0433        stuartl@allstarfire.com

Los Angeles County Fire          Dick Weise                  951 807-1914

City of Downey Fire                Pete Browne               562.243.3393            pbrowne3473@gmail.com

Municipal Emerg.  Services    Lazaro Martinez          562-320-2385            lmartinez@mesfire.com

CAL FIRE                                  Bob Wood                   951-757-8331            robert.wood@fire.ca.gov

Kern County Fire DepatmentSteven Salkeld             661-645-2020            smsalkeld@co.kern.ca.us

LAFD Retired                           James Dolan                562-400-1298            jsdolan123@aol.com

LAFD                                        John A Cardenas         661-917-7019            john.cardenas@lacity.org

Torrance Fire                        Jon Henderson            310-977-5619            Jhenderson@torranceca.gov

Allstar                                    Joe Sposato                 626-652-0900            joes@allstarfire.com

Bestway Laundry                     Eric Higgins                 951-532-7700            ehiggins@bestwayls.com

Veridian                                  Kirk Owen                   712-260-3547            kirk@veridian.net

CAL FIRE Riverside County      Barry Owens               951-218-4309            barry.owens@fire.ca.gov

CAL FIRE Riverside County      Scott Bethurum           951-575-5391            scott.bethurum@fire.ca.gov

Fillmore City Fire                    Keith Gurrola            805-377-1491            keithg@ci.fillmore.ca.us

Ventura County Fire                Michael Weisenberg805-990-4326            michael.weisenberg@ventura.org

Vernon Fire                             Craig Peltier                661.618.1779            cpeltier@ci.vernon.ca.us

Vernon Fire                             Bob Farrell                  951-741-6695            rfarrell@ci.vernon.ca.us

Curtis                                       Scott Marshall             626-840-7589            smarshall@lncurtis.com

LAFD/SAFER Pres                    Ellsworth Fortman      213-700-0668            ellsworth.fortman@lacity.org

Western States Fire Equip.     Louie Garcia                909-510-4266            lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

Ventura City Fire                     Brandyn Johnson         805-551-6086            bjohnson@ci.ventura.ca.us

Curtis                                       Ashley Silcott               626-250-1772            asilcott@lncurtis.com

Ventura City Fire                     Lou Manzano            805-256-8522            lmanzano@cityofventura.net

Curtis                                       Charles Turansky        818-398-6818            cturansky@lncurtis.com

Tencate                                   Bart McCool                541-221-5002            b.mccool@tencate.com

ECMS                                       Bob Mercurio            562-266-8465            bmercurio@ecmsinc.biz

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - December 2016

SAFER Meeting Minutes

December 16, 2016

SAFER Board Attendees:   Pres Fortman, VP Weise, Seely, Quinn,

Santa Fe Springs Fire Department

 Santa Fe Springs Fire Headquarters   

1010    Meeting called to order – D/C Hayward welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting,. Thanks to Santa Fe Springs Fire Department for use of the facility and Ruth with Santa Fe Springs FDfor morning brunch and coffee.

1015    VP Dick Weise opened the SAFER meeting and led  the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

 

  • Program: “Burn It Down”- Bomb Factory House

Presenter: Nick Vent – San Diego County Haz-Mat (Retired)

 HazMat and Safety Training

Introduced a 2 –Day course that will be offered through DOT in March, 2017 in the LA Area. Flyer to be forwarded to list via email.

Escondido California 1954 Scott

Gardener stepped on a stone while clearing brush which exploded, injuring him. Medics responded and assessed the victim (one was a HazMat FF) and treated the victim. The FD responded PD who took the scene over as a crime scene.

On scene FD turned their radio to all-call and stated “may-day, may-day we need PD assistance” which caused a mass response from all resources in the area.

The issue of jurisdiction arose:

  • San Diego Sheriff

  • Escondido PD

  • San Marcos Fire

  • County Haz-Mat

6 Mason Jars of unknown material were located – found to be 98% pure organic peroxide (HMTD – Hexamethylene Tri-Peroxide Diamine-). Jars had signs of rust on the jars.

Fusion Center found the tenant was a naturalized US citizen of Russian origin. His wife was still a Russian citizen. Had made numerous trips to Mexico in the prior month and had purchased commercial Castor Beans for unknown purposes. Pack-Rat conditions revealed numerous materials that are pre-curses for HMTD.  

5# HMTD was the chemical – explosive used in the London bus bombing.

HMTD:

  • Citric Acid (Vitamin C)

  • Hexamine (Sterno)

  • Hydrogen Peroxide – Commercially / Consumer

  • Methyl / Ethyl Alcohol

Dissolve Haxamine

Cool

 

DEH HazMat was responded by SD Co Sheriffs Bomb squad as they left their station as “Tec-Refs”

Objective: to render SAFE the 6 mason jars of HMTD

Video of the individual jars was shown to demonstrate the relative power of the material (HMTD)

Several methods to accomplish this was studied by FBI Bomb experts and HazMat staff. One problem was the remaining HMTD in the soil. The suspect had been dumping his waste in the gravel behind the house. They decided to make a mixture of 5% Sodium Hydroxide and XXX to reduce the Ph

 

9th Civil Support Team out of Los Alamitos was able to respond and provide assistance to the incident.

DTRA – Defence Threat Reductiion Agency, Fed State EPA and Lawrence Livermore Laboratory.

DEH pursued mapping and plume predictions.

Bomb Squad utilized Ahura RMX was used to run samples in the backyard

Interview with suspect”George” :

  • No radiation

  • No Ricin, Castor Beans only

  • HMTP referred to as “Puffer Powder”

  • Hydrogen Peroxide

  • Sulfuric Acid

  • Hydrogen Cyanide

  • Bulk Lead

  • Fragmentation (Pineapple) grenade molds

  • Precursors for Nitro-Glycerin

  • Quantities of PETN

  • Whole hand grenades

  • Lab gear used to do chemistry

  • Equipment to increase potency of various chemicals.

  • Bulk ammunition of various calibers

  • “Dye Packs” with $$ attached from multiple bank robberies in the San Diego area.

  • 50 garage door openers

  • Christmas “ornaments”

  • Door-Bell was wired to a switch

  • Camo material

  • Ammo Boxes full of all kinds of bomb making materials

  • Home-made Blasting caps, made from shell casings with light bulb filaments imbedded in HMTD. Tested by Bomb Tec’s – all worked

  • Home-Made Thermite in jars

  • 14# of finished HMTD

  • Tracking Devices (from Bank robberies)

  • Police Uniform

  • Various disguises

 

Damage to the residence was noted from numerous accidental explosions which occurred as the suspect made various bomb types.

Finding the scene to be so un-safe to continue, Command stopped work and regrouped to determine the safest method of mitigating the hazard. A meeting of all stake holders found some opposition but after fully explaining the rational, finally agreed to the tactic. IAP’s, media notification, necessary evacuations were planned. All accessible evidence was collected to remove as many toxics from the down-stream plume. 

They decided to burn the house and all contents  

60 Agencies involved: Local, County, State, Federal as limited military as Technical Reference sources.

Video of Jan Caldwell (PIO for SD Sheriffs Dept) was shown. She explained various questions by the media which helped to ease certain concerns of the public. A “Town-Hall” meeting was held.

A Local Declaration of Emergency was issued; State Agencies were tapped to assist in the clean-up and financial issues.

A “Fire Wall” was built to protect adjacent properties. ($20,000)

Used a Web Page to provide info to public

Air Monitoring strategy was developed to document the environment during and after the planned fire out to 2 miles. (Model showed the plume to stay within 75’ of the property). Heat measurement was used to insure the heat level was reached that would destroy the chemicals on site. Smoke went 2600’ straight up during the fire.

HazMat Incinerators run at 1900 degrees, the interior temp of the house was 2600 degrees. A Burn Plan was used to burn the chemicals stored in the living areas then expose and spread into the bedrooms.

 

Numerous chemicals were targeted for monitoring, including radiological isotopes.

Property Owner was offered $100,000 by the county. She refused and

George Jakubek was given 30 years for the bank robberies

He admitted making exposives

1130

Next Meeting in LACoFD

 

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

AllStar and Curtis and Plymovent

 

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co                                         NAME PHONE #                                             EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)                                    Chuck Seely     (949) 492-7993           firebiz@att.net

Downey Fire                                        Peter Browne(562) 243-3393           pete.browne@downeyfire.org

PLYMOVENT/AIR EXCHANGE             JIM CLEAERY   909-720-7064            jtc1@roadrunner.com

SD County HIRT - Retired                    Nick Vent         619-778-9500            Hazmatvent@gmail.com

LAFD                                                    Ellsworth Fortman 661-645-1810       ellsworth.fortman@lacity.org

CURTIS                                                            Scott Marshall 626-840-7589            smarshall@lncurtis.com

Los Angeles County Fire                      Dick Weise      951 807-1914              rweiselacofd@yahoo.com

Los Angeles County Fire                      Chris Marangakis (562) 553-2619      chris.marangakis@gmail.com

Fillmore City Fire                                Keith Gurrola805-558-0932            keithg@ci.fillmore.ca.us

Ventura Co, Fire                                  Robert Szczepanek 805-914-4021      Robert.Szczepanek@ventura.org

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - November 2016

 

SAFER Meeting Minutes

November 18, 2016

SAFER Board Attendees:   President Fortman, VP  Weise, ,Quinn, Seely, Alvarado, Past President Duran, Past President Dolan

Long Beach Fire Department

 Headquarters   

0900 – 0945    Vender Display / Networking         

1000    Meeting called to order –  B/C President Fortman (Batt 13)  welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting , introduced B/C Alvarado (LBFD) who led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military. Thanks to LBFD for use of the facility and John Price - MES for hospitality lunch.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

1000 – 1130    Presentation – Assistant Chief Corey Rose -“Firefighter Behavioral Health”

  • Program: FD/LEO Command Operations

 Chief Ed Hadfield – Rincon Fire Department / Firetown Training Specialist

Email: ehadfield@rincontribe.org

“One Team – Command Concepts” – Command Concepts for the New Normal” pp

A concept developed in Huntington Beach FD & PD. They wanted to better coordinate first responders at / during major events and incidents. The concept was a “Segway” to promote the use of “Incident Command System” within the “LAW” side like the “FIRE” side uses frequently.

Chief Hadfield related the risks in the City of Santa Maria (MS 13 etc.) “thrill” murders which forced the FD/LEO units to coordinate using IC system routinely for daily operations.

The concept of routinely utilizing the ICS is based as an “organic level”, at the basic operational level. Patrol Officers, Sergeants levels MUST buy in to be successful. 

Command puts people at risk, our job is to determine the “Level of Risk” we’re willing to expose them to.

Our job is to put people at risk to serve the community, the LAW side’s job is to provide overwatch to protect our people and the public.

FD/LEO Goal: “You home, I go home”

Personal “Medical Plan”: Each LAW member produced a medical plan that was carried within the B/C’s car in case an officer was injured. The medics would take the info to the hospital. Includes everything about the officer as well as specific instructions he wants to be done on his behalf.

B/C’s would attend briefings prior to high risk warrant services, major crime incidents and similar event profiles. Casualty Collection Points (CCPs), Com. Plan, Staging locations and Hospital locations determined during briefing.  Mutual Aid assets, Auto Aid agencies with non-common communications need to be identified and policy / procedures for mitigation planned.

P.R.I.D.E.S.

P – Patrol Culture

R – Respond – Need to respond with LAW on routine calls to contribute at the CP

I – Initiate – Involve yourself in the Command

D – Decide

E- Evaluate

S - Serve

 

In Santa Maria benefits were noted in many critical incidents where assets were on scene and positioned for quick response.

Chief Hadfield recommended “Plate Carriers” in lieu of traditional body armor. The front side was for the public, the back has equipment for the team member: Israeli bandages, tourniquets, dressings etc. Ballistic helmets were utilized by fire service.

Radio traffic needs a Tactical Channel for the incident.

B/C Fortman (LAFD) related LAPD has outstanding policies to include FD/EMS in briefings. Rescue Task Forces are outside the IDLH but proximate to the incident. They have “Tactical Medics” with dual band radios to communicate with both sides. The Tactical Medics are to provide aid to team members, the Rescue Task Force provides aid to victims, perp’s.

Discussion on whether to wear “Fire Gear” over body armor or “blend” into appearance of other incident members. Chief Hadfield feels it’s better to appear as menacing as possible to avoid being a “Target in Yellow Brush Gear”.

Chief related he produced a “Ten Things LAW should not do at a structure fire”.

   

 

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  • Business Meeting:

Dues: Please pay annual dues per website fee schedule.

1130 -1200 Roundtable

  • Roundtable:

Alex Warehouse

Robert Takashida LAFD: Risk Management Chief

Ron Barome - Burbank Fire- Training Officer

Scott Quinn LAFD: Medical Liaison Officer related LA has many medical claims every year. Injuries, Illnesses, equipment

Chad Stuart LAFD: New member in Risk Management – Litigation liaison.

Ken Cardenas LAFD Safety Coordinator- Looking into overhaul procedures graduated 42 members with two more in process. JOIN LAFD.org

B/C Fortman LAFD – New EMS Bureau assignment. LAFD down to 200 vacancies from last year’s 300. New resources are coming on-line this year. SAFER board meeting in early December to plan next board. Recognized Capt Jim Dolan’s contribution to LAFD Safety Programs.

Mike Schlagg- Cart System: new tires will be available for off road, loop to be added to attach ropes to rear.

Steve Cooly – Cobra Carts representative: Discussed design changes to improve the performance / utility of the Cobra Cart System. Rated at 1000#, black unit for SWAT operations.

Jim Dolan LAFD Retired – Words of wisdom

Lazaro Martinez – Cascade Fire Equipment – Manufacture of skid units, distributor of PPE and fire equipment.

Stuart Luvi – AllStar Fire Equipment – Recommended attending the Hawaiian Fire Chiefs Association Annual Meeting on Maui. $200/night at Ritz-Carlton. $25 to join association. Related the newest SCOTT IR equipped mask.

Dick Weise LACoFD – NFPA Safety Briefing on washing hoods coming out. CA concerns and contamination reduction are

1877 document for SCAM of Wildland Ensemples. Working on new “lighter” fire shelters. Dozers and helicopter pilot gloves are being reviewed. Dual compliancenew station pants are being purchasing Station / wildland pants as a PPE. Undergarment to be bought out of uniform allowances. Helmet liners are a concern in units that don’t have removable liners for cleaning. Hoods to filter out contaminates down to one micron (98% of what’s in smoke). REM Teams: Rapid Emergency Medics. Cancer reduction program coming – NFPA, IAFF contributing to a package program.

John Price (JP) LACoFD Retired – Arranged use of facility. MES distributor of PPE and fire equipment.

Firefighter Cancer Support Network Vice President – Brian Feebers Pasadena Fire Marshal new President. Related recommendations for reducing CANCER risks: Clean / Replace soiled hoods, leave contaminated gear OUTSIDE, clean as per 1855. Buy cleaning packets to reduce skin contact transmitted toxins from tools and skin.

Tom Martin – Atwood-Prior, Inc. – Manufactures representative for several companies.

 

 

  • next meetings:

  1. December @ Santa Fe Springs    

  2. January 20, 2017 @ LACoFD Camp 2                                                      

 

 

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)        November 18th, 2016

Agency / Co                                   NAME PHONE #                                 EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)                  Chuck Seely     (949) 492-7993           firebiz@att.net

Cascade Fire Equipment Co          Lazaro Martinez 714-715-8189          lazaro@cascadefire.com

Allstar Fire Equipment                  Stuart Lovi 626-255-0433                   stuartl@allstarfire.com

Ammonia Safety Training Institute - ASTI            Tony Duran 626-590-2991      Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com

Los Angeles County Fire                Dick Weise 951 807-1914                   rweiselacofd@yahoo.co

LAFD Retired                                 Jim Dolan        562-421-3258            jsdolan123@aol.com

LAFD                                            John A. Cardenas 661-917-7019         john.cardenas@lacity.org

Rincon Fire Department               Ed Hadfield 9518582444                    ehadfield@rincontribe.org

Cobra Litters LLC                        Mike Schlags   805-896.7993            mschlags@cobralitter.com

Los Angeles Fire Department       Chad Stuart 213 4826933                   chad.stuart@lacity.org

Burbank FD                                   Ron Barone 818-823-6560                  rbarone@burbankca.gov

Atwood-Prior MFGR Rep            Tom Martin 937-689-2222                 tmartin@firebrigade.com

Cobra Litters LLC                        Steve Cooley   805-377-5348            coolnco@aol.com

long beach                                                paul alvarado562 5703003               paul alvarado

MES                                               John Price        562-212-6803            jprice@mesfire.com

LAFD                                              Scott Quinn     (213) 434-1380           scott.quinn@lacity.org

                             

                             

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Michael Schlags – Cobra Rescue Litters

mschlags@cobra litters.com

P.O. Box 1981

Buellton[CS1]  , CA 93427-1981

(805) 896-7993

www.cobralitter.com

Spencer, Iowa   51301

 

Lazaro Martinez – Cascade Fire Equipment Co.

lazaro@cascadefire.com

(626) 255-0433 Cell

 

Tom Martin – Atwood-Prior, Inc.

Manufacturers Agent

(937) 689-2222

tmartin@repagency.host

2895 Valpak Rd. N.E.

Salem, OR97303

(800) 545-5678

 

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SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - October 2016

 

SAFER Meeting Minutes

October 21, 2016

SAFER Board Attendees:   President Fortman, Weise, Seely, Quinn, Alvarado, Past President Duran, Vender liaison Sposato

Los Angeles Fire Department

 Frank Hotchkin Memorial Training Center   

0900 – 0945    Vender Display on drill deck           

0945    Meeting called to order –  B/C President Fortman (Batt 13)  welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting with an update on the LAFD department, led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military. Thanks to LAFD for use of the facility and President Fortman for hospitality.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

1000 – 1130    Presentation – Assistant Chief Corey Rose -“Firefighter Behavioral Health”

  • Program: Firefighter Behavioral Health

Assistant Chief Corey Rose – “Emergency Medical Services Bureau”

(Working on Masters in Organizational Psychology)

corey.rose@lacity.org

Chief Rose related his “near death experience” during an entrapment event at the “KING FIRE”- (Sept 17, 2014, Northern California near Lake Tahoe). He was assigned as ‘STRUCTURE PROTECTION BRANCH” on a management team. He produced a series of photographs of the fire progression towards his position and related what was going through his mind that contributed to his decisions.  The experience struck home with the Chief and became a motivating factor in his pursuit of firefighter stress and behavioral health to help. He related the incidents of suicides within the fire service community and the PTSD phenomenon.

Decision’s under stress:

How?

  • Stay Calm

  • Think Clearly

  • NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER!!!!

There are times when quitting looks good, defeat inescapable and retreat the only option.

PowerPoint by AC Rose - “Can’t Take it Anymore? Keeping Firefighters Happy: An Inside Job

10%ers:

Little empirical data is available regarding FF/EMS suicides.

Family issues and work issues combined

Risk Factors:

  • Divorce

  • Trauma

  • Stress

  • Sudden Fame

  • Suicide

Suicide Motivation:

  • Loss/change in important relationship

  • Avoid or end perceived pain

  • Escape an intolerable situation

Etc.

Indirect Suicide Indicators:

Buying a weapon

  • Indirect Verbal cues:

  • I cant do this anymore

  • Im tired of life

  • Etc.

Direct Verbal Cues:

  • I’m tired of life

  • I’m going to kill myself

  • Etc.

Resilience “ Psych & Behavioral Lingo

Resilience= ability to withstand negative pressure

Resilient people experience negative circumstances associated with poor psychological and social outcomes yet despite the odds, the end up healthy and productive:

  • Mentally ill or abusive parents

  • Deprived social or economic conditions

  • Major stressful events

Related to:

  1. Biology – temperament, emotions etc.

  2. Attachment

  3. Control

90% of the population lacks traits to be emergency responders.

 “Adrenaline Junkies”:

  • Control Oriented

  • Attentive to detail

  • Traditional

  • Strong Role Identity

  • Action Oriented

  • Risk Takers

  • Highly Dedicated

Emergency Services - Stressful?

Most Stressful Jobs: Firefighter is #1

  • FF’s will seek clergy over professional mental health by 40.9% over 7.4%

  • FFs tend to have positive views about the world despite continued exposure to traumatic events.

Stress in EMS Providers:

  • 1,600 EMT’s and Medics surveyed

  • 100% reported exposure to traumatic events

  • PTSD incidence lower than general population.

Immune to stress?

  • FFs are human

  • They are highly effective on the job

Relationship Stressors:

Work Schedules – cause you to miss important events, occasions

Loyalty – to members, agencies, associates

Divorce – Attorney data suggest FFs have high rate of divorce. Family, home relationship issues likely related to work.

NFPA 1500 – Chapter 11: Behavioral Health and Wellness Program.

The FS Org will develop ………………

Employee Assistance Programs

  • EAP

  • NFF: Behavioral Health Assistance Program (BHAP)

  • Regardless of what you call it, they must be familiar and be prepared to treat firefighters.

EAP

  • Began in 1800’s to deal with ETOH problems

  • Expanded in 1950’s to mental health

Behavioral Health:

  • AKA: Mental Health

  • As important as physical health and safety

  • Left untreated, leads to illness and death

  • Covers a wide range of issues:

  • Sleep problems

  • Anager management

  • Depression

  • PTSD

  • Substance abuse and addiction

RESILIENCE: The Bottom Line:

Problem focused coping increases resilience while emotion-focused coping impairs resiliency

 

Resilient people are:

  • Sociable

  • Optimistic

  • Flexible

  • Self-confident

  • Competent

  • Insightful

  • Etc.

You play the hand you’re dealt –

Promoting Resilience:

Leadership

Social Support

Stress Prevention: FFs must have good stress management skills; most stress in emergency services is not from extraordinary events/incidents but from day to day activities and responsibilities.

Stress Prevention:

Ranking causes of burnout:

  1. 911 abusers

  2. Extensive shift lengths

  3. Sleep depravation

  4. Etc.

Tips for Stress management for firefighters:

  • Condition your body and mind

  • Listen to your inner voice

  • Never stop growing and learning

  • Be positive

  • Have a life outside the fire department

What do we do as leaders?

Maintain an environment of security, of support, create opportunities for success, maintain respect, reward, since of inclusion, allow others to have a since of identity, show benevolence.

Chief Rose discussed “Leadership” and the leadership program delivered at the training center and its availability to all agencies.

Define Leadership: “Influence and motivation of others even in the absence of the leader”. Based on the development of “Trust” between leader and those being led”.

Three Pillars of Leadership:

  1. Ability

  2. Integrity

  3. Benevolence

Servant Leader

Transitional Leader

 

 

 

*PowerPoint Presentation, Check Sheets and Test parameters available from presenters upon request.

 

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  • Business Meeting:

Dues: Please pay annual dues per website fee schedule.

1130 -1200 Roundtable

  • Roundtable:

Dick Weise: Related recent NFPA Committee activity, expressed appreciation of the SAFER org.

Scott Quinn Capt II – LAFD : Heat / Ilness prevention program completed, completing Drill tower classes.

Ells Fortman BC  LAFD formed an equipment committee to contribute to future purchases

Alvarado Long Beach FD: Related appreciation of SAFER as imormation source.

Tony Duran  LACoFD (Retired) Now with Ammonia Institute, giving training nationally and in South America.

Treasures report: $

Reminds all to pay dues online to support the organization.

Jim Cleary: PlymoVent – Related the hazards of diesel exhaust.

Mike Slaggs – Related some info on the recent roll-over accident in Ventura County FD. Discussed his extraction cart system demonstrated below.

McGee - Torrance Fire – Discussed the problems with pathogens migration into the work place (change gear outside station, polished concrete floors instead of carpet.

ScottCalFire Riverside; Related he is the new Safety Officer for CalFire Riverside. Related the efforts they have undertaken on behalf of FF health and safety.

Joe Sposado – Vender LiasonAllStar Fire: Related the recent Fire Tech Reno event. NFPA Standard on SCBAs: A change to the “Sound” requirement will increase the volume of the alert feature. All new MUST comply, those already in service MAY update. Chicago is changing over to the ORCO spec PPE.

Jack Kolta -Pt Mago – Fed Fire Ventura County – San Nicolas Island, New Fire Chief, related the Island has no diesel fuel – uses JP 5 to fuel apparatus.

Jim Black –

B/C – Ventura County – Related the support VCoFD received during the LODD funeral for their firefighter killed in roll-over accident was exceptional.

Eric Higgins Laundry Extractors systems – Related his company supplies, installs and services extractors in support of NFPA 1851 requirements. 

Scott Periguin – Best Way Laundry – Looking to include bar-codes to interface with PPE to properly match wash cycles.

Lazaro Martinez Cascade Fire Equipment – Wildland PPE out of Medford Oregon will have booth at Firehouse world.

Bren Cohee – Christian Bros – Diesel Exhaust Installation Company Rep for Nederman.

Kirk Owen -  Veridian Fire Protective Gear - NFPA PPE committee, CalOSHA will be adapting NFPA 1851 as a recognized standard for SCAM.  

Luois Garcia Western States Fire Equipment –

Tracy Fire Equipment – Local company

Tom Martin – Atwood-Prior, Inc. – Manufactures representative for several companies.

 

  • LN Curtis Next meeting

  • Long Beach FD next meeting:       Long Beach Fire Headquarters

                                                      3205 N Lakewood Blvd

                                                      Long Beach, CA90808

                                                      “FD/LEO Command Operations” – Fire Chief Ed Hadfield

Rincon FD & Firetown Training Specialist

  • Please RSVP to John Price at MES for a lunch head count by 11/16/16                                                       

 

 

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)        21-Oct-16

First Name            Last Name                   Agency/Company                                Email Address

Tony          Duran            LACoFD, ret./ASTI                               Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com

Scott          Bethurum        CAL FIRE/ Riverside County                scott.bethurum@fire.ca.gov

Shannon    Black               VCFD                                                   shannon.black@ventura.org

Paul           Alvarado          LBFD                                                    paulalvarado@longbeac.gov

John           Cardenas         LAFD                                                    john.cardenas@lacity.org

Chuck        Seely                Downey Fire (Retired)                                    firebiz@att.net

Dick           Weise            LA County Fire                                     rweiselacofd@yahoo.com

Tom           Martin             Atwood Prior factory representation tmartin@repagency.com

Tim            McAtee           Torrance Fire                                    tmcatee@torranceca.gov

Eric                        Higgins                        Bestway Laundry Solutions                 ehiggins@bestwayls.com

Scott          Peregoy           UnimacLaundry Systems                   scott.peregoy@alliancels.com

Michael     Schlags                        COBRA Litters LLC                              mschlags@cobralitter.com

Louie         Garcia             Western States Fire Equipment          lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

Ellsworth   Fortman          LAFD/SAFER President                        elsworth.fortman@lacity.org

Kirk            Owen               Veridian Fire Protective Gear             kirk@veridian.net

Jack           Koltaj               Fedderal fire Ventura County             jack.koltaj@navy.mil

JIM                        CLEARY            PLYMOVENT                                       jtc1roadrunner.com

Joe             Sposato            Allstar Fire                                          Joes@allstarfire.com

Michael     Weisenberg     Ventura County Fire                            michael.weisenberg@ventura.org

Lazaro       Martinez         Cascade Fire Equipment Co.               lazaro@cascadefire.com

scott          quinn               LAFD                                                    scott.quinn@lacity.org

tracy          rabe                 LineGear Fire & Rescue                      tracy@linegear.com

Bren          Cohee            Christian Brothers/Nederman            bren@cbhvac.com

 

 

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Michael Schlags – Cobra Rescue Litters

mschlags@cobra litters.com

P.O. Box 1981

Buellton[CS1]  , CA 93427-1981

(805) 896-7993

www.cobralitter.com

 

Kirk H. Owen – Regional Sales Manager – Veridian Fire Protective Gear

kirk@veridian.net

(888) 922-9433

www.veridian.net

(712) 260-3547

(712) 262-5200 #217

3710 W Milwaukee St.

Spencer, Iowa   51301

 

Frank Uram- President-  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

 

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA

 

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety

jime@solutionssafety.com

 

Lazaro Martinez – Cascade Fire Equipment Co.

lazaro@cascadefire.com

(626) 255-0433 Cell

 

Tracy Rabe – LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment

(800) 466-7574

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

tracy@LineGear.com

 

Tom Ramstead – LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment

(800) 466-7574

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

Tom@LineGear.com

 

Jim Cleary – Plymovent

(800) 300-2945

(909) 720-7064

Jtc1@roadrunner.com

Air Exchange, Inc.

1494-B East Francis Street

Ontario, CA91761

 

Tom Martin – Atwood-Prior, Inc.

Manufacturers Agent

(937) 689-2222

tmartin@repagency.host

2895 Valpak Rd. N.E.

Salem, OR97303

(800) 545-5678

 

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SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - June 2016

 

SAFER Meeting Minutes

June 17, 2016

SAFER Board Attendees:   President Fortman, Past President Dolan, Seely, Quinn, , Alvarado, Vender liaison Sposado

Los Angeles Fire Department

 Frank Hotchkin Memorial Training Center   

0930    Meeting called to order –  B/C President Fortman (Batt 13)  welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military. Thanks to LAFD for use of the facility and “WorkRite” Uniforms for hospitality.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

 

  • Program: Fire Service Grants

Battalion Chief Cori Tipton – “Homeland Security Grants Section”

corinne.tipton@lacity.org

(213) 202-9955 Office

26 Federal Agencies with “fingers” in the Grant pool. Grants are not “free money” in that you must satisfy a myriad of requirements to receive and utilize the dollars. Over 1000 grants available in various categories.

FEMA.gov to see all grants.

 

UASI – “Urban Area Security Initiative”. (21 Cities in US), Regional in nature as it is assumed other local / regional agencies will be needed to assist in a terrorism incident.   

SHSGP-“ State Homeland Security Grant Program”

PSGP- “Port Security Grant Program”

AFG – Assistance to Firefighters Grant (FF Safety), Largest Grant available in LACo. (Single Layer Pant example.

SAFER – “Staffing For Adequate Fire & Emergency Response” to meet 1710 / 1720 manning standard. Pays for

FP&S – “Fire Prevention and Safety Grant”

 

PERFORMANCE PERIOD: Time allowed to apply for, receive and completed approved grants.

Solution Areas:

Organizations

            Positions – hiring for backfill & overtime

Planning

            Must have deliverables

Training

Equipment

            Includes consumables

Exercises

 

*PowerPoint Presentation, Check Sheets and Test parameters available from presenters upon request.

 

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  • Business Meeting:

Dues:

 

  • Roundtable:

Scott Quinn Capt II – LAFD : Drill tower class graduating,

John Price -

Stuart Lovi – AllStar Fire Equipment –

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety: AB 2146 is proposed law being written for California that will mandate SCBA’s, PPE standards that meet NFPA 1851. State must make the implementation of the law coincide with funding (not a un-funded mandate). Cleaning and inspection will likely be the first to be implemented as it has low or no costs.

 

Eric Higgins VP – BestWay Laundry Solutions –

Mark Sheldon – Oceanside FD Retired – Days-Off Products: Introduced his product representation: TIC’s, Tools etc..

 

Lazaro Martinez – Cascade Fire Equipment Company:

 

Bill Ward –

 

 

LN Curtis Fire Equipment:

 

Tom Langer –

 

 

 

  • 1200 Meeting Adjourned

  • Next Month AllStar Fire Equipment . Program:

     

 

 

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Michael Schlags – Cobra Rescue Litters

mschlags@cobra litters.com

P.O. Box 1981

Buelton[CS1]  , CA 93427-1981

(805) 896-7993

www.cobralitter.com

 

Kelly Whitt – Regional Account Executive – Workrite Uniforms

(909) 289-5775 Cell

(562) 252-0155 Fax

kwhitt@workrite.com

www.workrite.com

1701 N. Lombard Street, Suite 200

Oxnard, CA 93030

 

 

Walt Dorn – Liqui-Pod

walt@liqui-pod.com

www.liqui-pod.com

(562) 244-2205 cell

(844)766-5763 ext 104

 

Bill Ward – Luqui-Pod

billward@cox.net

 

TJ Jasper - Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

www.bestwayls.com

 

Tyson Raner – Systems Consultant –  Construction Innovations – Fire Watch Digital Communications

(855) 725-9555

(916) 502-3414

5716 Folsom Blvd Suite 155

Sacramento, CA95819

Tyson.raner@constructioninnovations.com

Self-Contained , Portable Fire Alarm System

 

Ford Davies – B&D Safety Systems Inc. (Business Development)

(916) 765-8648 Cell/text

(800) 983-3518 Central Station

fdavies@bdsafetysystems.com

www.bdsafetysystems.com

Associates with: SecureWatch and FireWatch electronic monitoring units

 

Frank Uram- President-  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

 

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA

 

Jay Terry   Terry’s Canvas

terryscanvas@aol.com

2925 Palomino Court

Ontario, CA 91761

Phone (909) 947-7998

www.terrysfireequipment.com

 

 

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety

jime@solutionssafety.com

 

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment

lazarom@allstarfire.com

(626) 255-0433 Cell

 

Tracy Rabe – LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment

(800) 466-7574

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

tracy@LineGear.com

 

Tom Ramstead – LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment

(800) 466-7574

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

Tom@LineGear.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co                                     NAME                       PHONE #                              EMAIL (s)    

Downey Fire (Retired)                Chuck Seely             (562) 824-3225                  firebiz@att.net    

LACFD (retired) MES                    John Price                562-212-6803                jprice@mesfire.com           

Straight Up Imaging             Terry Parisher      (912) 667-8990    terry@straightupimaging.com           

Qual-Tel                                           Frank Uram             800-442-1504             furam@qualatel.com

Cobra Litters                                   Steve Cooley          805-377-5348                    coolnco@aol.com

Bestwqy Laundry Solutions       Eric Jasoer               (800)562-6166       ejasper@bestwayls.com           

Cobra Litters                          Michael Schlags        808-896-7993                   mschlags@cobralitter.com      

Cobra Litters                     Breanna Bartolucci         805-245-1535                    bschlags@cobralitter.com       

Oceanside FD(retired)/Days Off Consultants         Mark Sheldone      760-505-3473            msheldone@sbcglobal.net      

Western States Fire Equipment      Louie Garcia    213-272-5680        lgarcia@vvgtruck.com   

Chistian Brothers Mechanical ServicesGavin Fenske714-515-0083                gavin@cbhvac.com         

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment    Tom Ramstead   949-709-8808               sales@linegear.com           

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment    Tracy Rabe         949-709-8808  tracy@linegear.com     

LN Curtis and Sons            Ed Shabro     76-250-1180           eshabro@lncurtis.com  

LACoFD                     Tony Duran            626-590-2991        Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com    

LAFD                        Ells Fortman            661-645-1810               ellsworth.fortman@lacity.org     

LAFDRetired         Jim Dolan                 562-400-1298                                jsdolan123@aol.com      

SC Products             Jim Evans                 770-634-0848                    jime@solutionssafety.com      

OCFA                         Russ Snider             714-308-4338                    russsnider@ocfa.org      

FireWatch                Ford Davies             916-765-8648                    fdavies54@gmail.com   

Christian Brothers Mechanical               Bren Cohee          951-703-8985        bren@cbhvac.com           

Liqui-Pod                  Bill Ward                  949-246-6999                    billward@cox.net

Ventura County Fire Dept    Michael Weisenberg 805-990-4326

michael.weisenberg@ventura.org    

Los Angeles Fire Dept     Scott Quinn             213-434-1380        scott.quinn@lacity.org  

Allstar Fire Equipment Inc.        Lazaro Martinez    626-255-0433        lazarom@allstarfire.com           

LACoFD                     Alvin Brewer          213-700-4184        alvin.brewer@fire.lacounty.gov        

LAFD                        John Cardenas        661-917-7019        john.cardenas@lacity.org         

VCFD                Robert Szczepanek       805-914-4021        Robert.Szczepanek@ventura.org      

Santa Paula Fire     Keith Gurrola          805-377-1491        kgurrola@spcity.org       

 

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SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - August 19, 2016

 

SAFER Meeting Minutes

August 19, 2016

SAFER Board Attendees:   Seely, Quinn

Carlsbad Fire Department

 Carlsbad Training Center   

0950    Meeting called to order – Scott Quinn introduced B/C  welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military. Thanks to Carlsbad Fire Department for use of the facility and FIRE ETC for morning Snacks and coffee.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

 

  • Program: “Firefighter Rehab on Wildfires, Structural Firefighting Heat and Toxic Exposure”

Presenter: Mary Murphy, EMS Manger CBD

Reference links, PowerPoint available

Mary was an ER nurse for 20 years, Carlsbad FD for 8 years. Related her passion for firefighter safety – including illness / injury prevention policy development.

*Every 20 minutes of work you do your “core” temp increases 1 degree. Temp increases with each successive 20 minute period. Give frequent 1 to 3 minute breaks.

Reference: US Fire Administration – Feb 2008 – Rehab report covers 7 incident reviews.

HEAT STRESS Factors:

  1. Air Temp

  2. Humidity

  3. Radiant Heat

  4. Air Movement

  5. Physical demands of work

  6. Clothing

  7. PF and body composition

  8. Psychological / Perception

  9. Medications

Signs / Symptoms of Heat Exhaustion:

  1. Pounding Headache

  2. Sudden Fatigue

  3. Etc…

Insert Video – “TED Talk” (ed.ted.com) and Utube search “Exertional Heat Stroke” ^104 F degrees (40 C)

Rhabdomyolysis – Effects skeletal muscles, breakdown of muscle fibers resulting in widespread dispersal of waste product.

Signs / Symptoms of “Rhabdo”:

 

Trigger Points for “Formal Rehab”:

Has used 2 bottles of air (or 1 45-60 minute)

Monitor for Dehydration, CO, Cyanide, Hyperthermia, Heat Exhaustion / Heat Stroke

Active Cooling with submersion or wet towels

 

Overhaul:

Old days: Wood, cotton, silk, wool

Now: PVC, Nylons, Polyproplyene, numerous “plastics” etc.

Fire Gases and Vapors: CO, Carbon Dioxide, HCl, Nitrous Gases, Hydrogen Sulfide, Sulfur Dioxide, Acrolein, Ammonia, Formaldehyde, Benzene, etc..

4-Gas Monitor detects: Oxygen, HS, CO and lower Explosive limit

Co is 250 times stronger than 02 in attaching to hemoglobin

HCN is 33-35% more dangerous to oxygen carrying capability of RBC’s than CO

HS is a chemical asphyxiant and irritant

Fatalities from Heart Disease: FF = 45%, PD = 22% etc.

 

Increased Risks Include:

  1. Tabaco Use

  2. High Blood Pressure

  3. Obesity

  4. Cholesterol and Triglycerides

  5. Diabetes

  6. Metabolic Syndrome

  7. Lack of physical fitness

  8. Poor Diet Habits

  9. Famiy Hx

  10. Age / Gender

  11. Noise

  12. Psychological Stress

  13. Shift Work

  14. Sympathetic Activity

Reference: Oregon State “A study of Chemicals found in the overhaul phase 2011”

Lists chemicals found during overhaul phase that exceeded NIOSH and OSHA standards.

Reference: Phoenix Fire Dept.: Same results found as Oregon Study. PFD now requires SCBA protection during overhaul.

“Formaldehyde” discussed as a carcinogen found in fire gases. Thought to be a significant cause of Cancer in FF’s.

“Arsenic” discussed as a hazardous fire gas.

“Mercury” discussed as a fireground toxin. Found in many modern electronics and common household devices.

Additional fire gases discussed (see PowerPoint)

Cancer Statistics shown and discussed in the Fire Service demographic.

Reference: “FF Cancer Support Network” paper discusses the risk factors related to FF behaviors that increase the exposure to fireground carcinogens.

Two leading routes of exposure:

  • Through the lungs

  • Through the skin (dermal absorption)  

 

 

 

  • Break to network with venders 11:1

 

  • Roundtable: Cancelled  due to reduced attendance from numerous agency Wildfiredeployments.

  • 1200 Meeting Adjourned

  • Next Month Orange County Fire Authority . Program: TBA

     

 

 

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Frank Uram- President-  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety

jime@solutionssafety.com

 

Lazaro Martinez – Cascade Fire Equipment

lazaro@cascadefire.com

714-715-8189

 

Tracy Rabe – LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment

(800) 466-7574

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

tracy@LineGear.com

 

Charles Javer – antex Knitting Mills / Industrial Fabric Div

Manufacturers of PyroSafe Fabric

(213) 713-2347

Charles@antexknitting.com

FireEtc

Dave Kelaita – Regional Sales Manager – Fire, West Coast - Avon Protection Systems, Inc.

1361 Brass Mill Road, Suite F

Belcamp, MD21017

(657) 263-5507

Dave.kelaita@avon-protection.com

 

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co                                     NAME                       PHONE #                              EMAIL (s)    

Los Angeles Fire Dept.

John Cardenas

661-917-7019

john.cardenas@lacity.org

LineGear Fire & Rescue

Tracy Rabe

949-709-8808

tracy@linegear.com

Los Angeles Fire Dept.

Robert Takeshita

213-278-3447

robert.takeshita@lacity.org

Cascade Fire Equipment

Lazaro Martinez

714-715-8189

lazaro@cascadefire.com

ventura county fd

Scott Dettorre

805-701-0150

scott.dettorre@ventura.org

Carlsbad fire

Chris Robinson

760-484-0629

chris.robinson@carlsbadca.gov

Carlsbad fire

Taylor Larsen

760-613-2026

taylor.larsen@carlsbadca.gov

Carlsbad fire

Joseph Gallucci

760-685-1480

joseph.gallucci@carlsbadca.gov

 

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - February 2016

 

SAFER Meeting Minutes

February 19, 2016

SAFER Board Attendees:   President Fortman, Past President’s Duran and Dolan, Seely, Quinn, , Alvarado

Long Beach Fire Department

  Headquarters  

0930    Meeting called to order –  President Fortman Introduced B/C Paul Alvarado who welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military. Thanks to LBFD for use of the facility and hospitality.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

 

  • Program: Annual Apparatus / Equipment Testing

LBFD Engineers Meiers and Shrout

B/C Alvarado introduced the presenters and gave a brief history of the agencies equipment testing program. The department developed a program to standardize all testing across the department, in nine days. Testing covers hose, ladders (including replacement of required labels), calibration of foam-pro systems, radios (reprogram TMAC), pumps, gauges, nozzles etc., all testing meets NFPA Standards. SCBA’s and all spare air bottles (using an outside contractor) to check for hydrostatic test dates. All outdated bottles are routinely “drilled” to remove them from any possibility of re-use. Anti-corrosion (Zinc Anodes) grates are changed and pumps / tanks are drained and flushed. Nozzles are checked and lubricated per manufacturers specifications. 32 Pumpers in LBFD fleet, 7 Truck Co’s.

*PowerPoint Presentation, Check Sheets and Test parameters available from presenters upon request.

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  • Business Meeting:

Dues:

SAFER is collecting annual dues to replenish our funds to support the Safety Mission. Go to SAFER.org online to sign up and pay dues. (Venders $100/Year)

Next Month: 18th of March North Las Vega : Cosmo Hotel Fire will be the presentation.

March 8th, 2016  at LBFD HQ – “Body Armor Prersentation”, Check website special presentation.

VP Wiese via text message: NFPA Rep: (Sick today), 1977 new 2016 is out with new requirements. SCAM is evolving.

 

  • Roundtable:

Jim Dolan LAFD Retired – Thanks to all attending.

Keith Gurrola - Santa Paula Fire – Santa Paula looking for proposals to provide fire protection services, possibly Ventura County.

Tony Duran; Past President, Interim Treasure- Has moved all accounts and mailing info.

Louie Garcia - Western States fire equipment – Related several products Western States is representing.

Michael Weisenberg– Ventura County - Camarillo Station – May 2oth SAFER – Full day symposium on UAV’s.

Robert Szczepanek- Ventura County; American LaFrance went out of business, will be going to Rosenbouer as their agency apparatus supplier.

Scott Quinn Capt II – LAFD : Drill tower class graduating, will have more classes starting. Asking to maintain a dialogue with CalOSHA on Heat Illness Prevention program. Has an accident investigation going after a fall from a training prop during construction.

Al Brewer LACoFD - Doing recruitment, 56 guys / class to fill some vacancies. Switching to new structure glove -“Dragon-Fire gloves”. AB 2146 advisory committee is looking to bring Cal law into NFPA 1851 Standard – Wearing SCBA during overhaul is one major issue.

Frank Orem - Qual-te l- introduced drone expert / business partner. Explained possible uses of this technology for fire / rescue scenarios.

Terry Parisher CEO – Straight up Imaging -  UAV’s- Explained the utility of his UAV product that will benefit the fire service and others. Various capabilities were given, IR, Chemical sensors, long hover time (20 Minutes+), extensive and other optimized technology. Working with FAA to develop working policy for the use of UAV’s.

Eric Maglio – Straight up Imaging Chief Engineer, builds products to meet user needs.

Rajiv Khatri – Straight Up Imaging Chief Architect: builds products to meet user needs.

Bren Cohee - Christion Bros Mechanical - Diesel Exhaust system builder from San Diego County region. First SAFER meeting.

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety: AB 2146 is proposed law being written for California that will mandate SCBA’s, PPE standards that meet NFPA 1851. State must make the implementation of the law coincide with funding (not a un-funded mandate). Cleaning and inspection will likely be the first to be implemented as it has low or no costs.

Eric Jasoer – BestWay Laundry – Related they provide sales and service of commercial laundry equipment used in maintenance of firefighting ensembles.

Steve Cooley – Cobra Litters:  Discussed the innovative new litter form Cobra Litters that has unique rolling characteristics for use over rough surfaces. Steve related the quality of the device and iuts construction.

Mark Sheldon – Oceanside FD Retired – Days-Off Products: Introduced his product representation: TIC’s, Tools etc..

Rick Griggs – CalFire Riverside: Related his agencies involvement in providing Fire / Life Safety during the president’s visit and the Asian Pacific Summit. Protests, protective service issues. Mass Causality Mode, Response to Public Unrest Mode were among the unusual response strategies were employed.

 

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment: Distributor of Lion PPE , Repairs fire hose for LBFD.

 

Bill Ward – Liqui-Pod: Has a prop that allows real flow water for training and pump testing. Is intended to reduce water waste and still provide realistic fireground operational training / pump testing. Various uses were related including “Drafting” pump operations. Live demonstrations were available in the parking lot utilizing LBFD apparatus.

 

Tyson Raner – Construction Innovations / FireWatch Digital Communications: Product is utilized to reduce overhaul injuries / toxic exposures to suppression crews by using fire detection at scene to do the “fire watching”. System “reports” to agency alarm center should a re-kindle be detected.

 

John Cardenas – LAFD – Is new Safety Officer.

 

Kelly Whitt – WorkRite Uniforms: Now stocking the new technical pant that meets single layer standards for station and wildland. Has several colors available.

 

Russ Snyder – OCFA – Completing current academy, mostly from other agencies. New class is at week 4.

 

LN Curtis Fire Equipment: Related May 4th-5thwill be the Fire Wardens Retreat.

 

Tom Langer – New “Crew Boss” single layer pant, new wildland boot.

 

Tracy Rabe -  Line Gear Fire & Rescue Equipment : Provides a full line of PPE products.

 

Jim Clearly – Plymovent: Has over 1000 stations using their system. No Las Vegas meeting is same date as March Madness weekend so make your reservations early.

 

 

  • 1130 Moved to outside prop to observe the pump test prop.

 

 

  • 1200 Meeting Adjourned

  • Next Month North Las Vegas FD. Program: “The Cosmopolitan Hotel Fire”.

     

 

 

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Michael Schlags – Cobra Rescue Litters

mschlags@cobra litters.com

P.O. Box 1981

Buelton[CS1] , CA 93427-1981

(805) 896-7993

 

Kelly Whitt – Regional Account Executive – Workrite Uniforms

(909) 289-5775 Cell

(562) 252-0155 Fax

kwhitt@workrite.com

www.workrite.com

1701 N. Lombard Street, Suite 200

Oxnard, CA 93030

 

 

 

Walt Dorn – Liqui-Pod

walt@liqui-pod.com

www.liqui-pod.com

(562) 244-2205 cell

(844)766-5763 ext 104

 

Bill Ward – Luqui-Pod

billward@cox.net

 

 

 

TJ Jasper - Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

www.bestwayls.com

 

Tyson Raner – Systems Consultant –  Construction Innovations – Fire Watch Digital Communications

(855) 725-9555

(916) 502-3414

5716 Folsom Blvd Suite 155

Sacramento, CA95819

Tyson.raner@constructioninnovations.com

Self-Contained , Portable Fire Alarm System

 

Ford Davies – B&D Safety Systems Inc. (Business Development)

(916) 765-8648 Cell/text

(800) 983-3518 Central Station

fdavies@bdsafetysystems.com

www.bdsafetysystems.com

Associates with: SecureWatch and FireWatch electronic monitoring units

 

Frank Uram- President-  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

 

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA

 

Jay Terry   Terry’s Canvas

terryscanvas@aol.com

2925 Palomino Court

Ontario, CA 91761

Phone (909) 947-7998

www.terrysfireequipment.com

 

 

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety

jime@solutionssafety.com

 

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment

lazarom@allstarfire.com

(626) 255-0433 Cell

 

Tracy Rabe – LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment

(800) 466-7574

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

tracy@LineGear.com

 

Tom Ramstead – LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment

(800) 466-7574

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

Tom@LineGear.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co                                     NAME                       PHONE #                              EMAIL (s)    

Downey Fire (Retired)                Chuck Seely             (562) 824-3225                  firebiz@att.net    

LACFD (retired) MES                    John Price                562-212-6803                jprice@mesfire.com           

Straight Up Imaging             Terry Parisher     (912) 667-8990    terry@straightupimaging.com           

Qual-Tel                                           Frank Uram             800-442-1504             furam@qualatel.com

Cobra Litters                                   Steve Cooley          805-377-5348                    coolnco@aol.com

Bestwqy Laundry Solutions       Eric Jasoer               (800)562-6166       ejasper@bestwayls.com           

Cobra Litters                          Michael Schlags        808-896-7993                   mschlags@cobralitter.com      

Cobra Litters                    Breanna Bartolucci         805-245-1535                    bschlags@cobralitter.com       

Oceanside FD(retired)/Days Off Consultants         Mark Sheldone      760-505-3473            msheldone@sbcglobal.net      

Western States Fire Equipment      Louie Garcia    213-272-5680        lgarcia@vvgtruck.com   

Chistian Brothers Mechanical ServicesGavin Fenske714-515-0083                gavin@cbhvac.com         

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment    Tom Ramstead   949-709-8808               sales@linegear.com           

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment    Tracy Rabe         949-709-8808tracy@linegear.com     

LN Curtis and Sons            Ed Shabro     76-250-1180           eshabro@lncurtis.com  

LACoFD                     Tony Duran            626-590-2991        Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com    

LAFD                        Ells Fortman            661-645-1810               ellsworth.fortman@lacity.org     

LAFDRetired         Jim Dolan                 562-400-1298                                jsdolan123@aol.com      

SC Products             Jim Evans                 770-634-0848                    jime@solutionssafety.com      

OCFA                         Russ Snider             714-308-4338                    russsnider@ocfa.org      

FireWatch                Ford Davies             916-765-8648                    fdavies54@gmail.com   

Christian Brothers Mechanical               Bren Cohee          951-703-8985        bren@cbhvac.com           

Liqui-Pod                  Bill Ward                  949-246-6999                    billward@cox.net

Ventura County Fire Dept  Michael Weisenberg 805-990-4326

michael.weisenberg@ventura.org    

Los Angeles Fire Dept     Scott Quinn             213-434-1380        scott.quinn@lacity.org  

Allstar Fire Equipment Inc.        Lazaro Martinez    626-255-0433        lazarom@allstarfire.com           

LACoFD                     Alvin Brewer          213-700-4184        alvin.brewer@fire.lacounty.gov        

LAFD                        John Cardenas        661-917-7019        john.cardenas@lacity.org         

VCFD                Robert Szczepanek       805-914-4021        Robert.Szczepanek@ventura.org      

Santa Paula Fire     Keith Gurrola          805-377-1491        kgurrola@spcity.org       

 

 

 

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SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - January 2016

SAFER Meeting Minutes

January 15, 2016

SAFER Board Attendees:   VP Wiese, Seely, Quinn, Sposato, Past President’s Gurrola and Dolan

Hosted by: Los Angeles County Fire Department

  Fire Camp 2

1000    Meeting called to order – Past President Gurrola Introduced B/C Tom Sullivan who welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military. Keith reviewed the purpose of SAFER and its committee structure. The planned program from Chief Brunacini (Blue Card Program) will be presented at the Safety Officers Conference in Scottsadale Arizona. Capt. Dick Weise, an NFPA committee member, will be presenting today’s program – “Firefighting PPE”

Thanks to  Fire Camp 2 for use ofthe facility andhospitality.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

 

Program: Firefighting PPE

Fact, Fiction, and Crossing the Barriers to Reality

Capt. Weise / SAFER VP is a sitting member on the NFPA 1971 Committee, 1851 Committee and the 1977 Committee as well as a FDSOA member.

Dick gave a brief description on the NFPA 1851 standard, its content and origin with SAFER’s development.

NFPA 1851 Is on a five year update rotation. (Selection, care and Maintenance – SCAM document). Some states like Texas is an “NFPA” state which means they will, by LAW, comply with NFPA standards –“recognized national standards”. Manufacturers “run” the many NFPA committees with agency representatives occupying a minority of committee seats. Design and protective qualities are measured to accommodate requests / suggestions by end users. They currently don’t test  “full ensembles”, only individual parts of the ensemble. Older standards failed to address the “hazardous material” that may remain on various PPE elements after an exposure. Current standards mandate cleaning and evaluation of PPE.

TTP – (Thermal Protective Performance) – Originally determines by exposing sailor’s to heat till a second degree burn was observed. Now tests are measured in a laboratory environment and data collected to determine the protective qualities of each part of an firefighting ensemble. Sometimes referred to as “breathability”.

Insert TTP Chart here:

Helmets need to be replaced at least every 10 years (two review periods). Helmets can only be tested using “destructive testing” so inspection / evaluation must be done periodically to insure minimum performance. OSHA and ANSI require retiring “hard hats” after 5 years for general use.

THL – (Thermal Heat Loss) – A person under “working conditions” develops heat that needs to be released. This can be measured to evaluate the appropriateness of a specific PPE product. 

“Second sets” of PPE are becoming more common. Each firefighter injury carries such a high “direct and in-direct” cost that providing the best possible protection IS WORTH THE COST of providing and maintaining superior PPE in the fire service.  

New face piece qualities were discussed: Heat exposure (tested to 500 degrees), communications equipment such as “Bluetooth” connectivity to crew Tac as well as command Tac. “Fit Testing” standards were discussed as well as flow performance.

Insert Temperature Effects Slide here:

“Routine House Fire” - 93% are single line fires in LACoFD. Most firefighter deaths occur in single family houses due to flash over. Contamination + Surface moisture + heat cause “Contamination Burn” due to “stored energy”.

It is critical that all PPE elements are inspected after exposure to products of combustion.

Cancer:                                               Insert Cancer Chart Here:

Test cancer (2.02 times greater risk)

Multiple Myeloma (1.53)

Non-Hodgins Lymphoma

Chemicals in smoke, soot dissolve in oil not water and readily pass through the skin. Full structure PPE has vapor protection capabilities whereas wildland PPE doesn’t which is what we often use for overhaul where the highest levels of carcinogens and “toxic twins” exposure. Our gear will cross-contaminate everyone who comes in contact with it, or is exposed to “off-gassing vapors” from residual material absorbed into the fabric or onto the non-porous surfaces. We need to wash hood after every fire, so we need two hoods per guy. No PPE should be in quarters, only on the engine room to minimize contamination of the station and exposure to toxic vapors.    

  • Exposure increases 400% for every 5 degrees of temperature increase.

Gross decontamination “on the fireground” is the best way to reduce personal exposures. Over 100 sets of turn-outs from all regions have been collected by an NFPA committee and are being tested for residual toxic materials.

Hydroxycolomine is a drug given to any smoke inhalation patient.

  • See the “White Paper” on firefighter Cancer – it’s on the internet, look for the second paper soon.

  • See Boston FD Cancer video on UTUBE

Discussion on “Single Layering”, some agencies are currently using the single layering concept. Now looking to provide no drip, no burn undergarments with good moisture wicking and anti- microbial fabric for under-garments. 

  

Capt. Dick Weise (951) 808-1914 Cell / rweiselacofd@yahoo.com

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Business Meeting:

Dues:

SAFER is collecting annual dues to replenish our funds to support the Safety Mission. Go to SAFER.org online to sign up and pay dues.

 

Roundtable:

Marquis Campbell- JPL

Alex Villegas Capt.-  JPL

Carlos Ulloa – JPL

Jerry Francel - JPL

Stuart Scott Safety – Building construction is changing and fire behavior is different, SCOTT is working to improve SCBA and integrated communications systems to improve ff safety. Discussed accountability system using bar-code status.

Joe Sposato ; AllStar Fire Equip / Vender Liason: Related the venders will be asked to participate to ensure adequate funding of the SAFER organization. Feb 2 and 3rd in San Diego – FIREHOUSE WORLD, get passes at AllStar table. Related the passing of an old friend (Charlie) who designed and manufactured a lined fire hose to handle 1800 psi for high rise fire protection systems. (Tested to 1200 psi) at the time.

 

Paul Alvarado – Long Beach FD: Discussed airport issues and the use of AFFF and related that FAA says it now must meet Military Specification. Loe Sposato added “Mil spec must all be compatible with other AFFF’s to prevent the AFFF from gelling in the tank when mixed”.  

Jeff Wilkerson – Camp Pendleton FD

Jim Dolan –LAFD retired

Russ Snyder ORCO FD: New academy starting – most are from other agencies. Has had a problem with gloves delaminating. Conducting BC testing this month.

Scott Perigou-UniMac Extractor’s

Eric Higgins Bestway Laundry systems. Has equipment (extractors etc), cleaning solutions. Sales, Installation and service.

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment. Will be at Firehouse World in San Diego

Ensinitas Fd- Many promotions occurring, Ensinitas works closely with other area agencies for select support needs.

John Cardenas – LAFD Risk Management

Scott Quinn LAFD – Open hiring, classes graduating a new class, looking at SWR contamination risks. Now sampling all water when exposing crews after SWR. Advises to decon after any SWR exposures. Working on an OSHA citation with a $20,000.00 penalty for a heat illness incident.  MUST document all Heat Illness, Injury training. Aerial Crush Injury- guy got his foot caught. A training tower accident resulted in a firefighter head injury after a fall from a prop during construction. CalFire conducted a class on “How to investigate a SERIOUS Injury Incident” with LAFD and other area agencies – suggests this as a future topic.

Jeff Howe Burbank FD: Has built a “re-hab” apparatus that responds to all fire incidents. All Burbank flashover container training is nowfollowing LAFD policy: No OSB products to be used to eliminate the associated toxins we expose our crews to. Limit the PPE used to a few that are dedicated to the drills. Looking for recruits – had a limited amount of participation in a recent recruiting event.

Jack – Fed Fire Ventura County Fire – Recently has taken delivery of several new apparatus.

Al Brewer LACoFD – Completed training with CalFire for investigations of SERIOUS Accident Incidents. Related a recent commercial fire event which resulted in four injuries from falling through a roof in an unoccupied building. Build a cadre within the county to assist any agency with accident investigations.

Pete Browne – Downey Fire Dept: Hiring soon, New Peirce Type 1’s being delivered. Having problems with new Dodge Chassis when loading gurneys due to loading height of deck. Several agency representatives offered assistance.

John Price LACoFD (Retired) Rep for MES – Thanked Dick for touching on Cancer in his presentation. Will have booth in SD, 1130 till 600 pm.

Brian Joran – LACoFD – Safety Officer: North Ops, “Blue Sheet Writing GURU”. Related an incident where an older lady pulled a gun on the crew. Another incident where a homeless guy pulled a knife on the PM’s. Related a recent fire where the crew saw only light smoke showing, entered without SCBA, discovered a room and contents fire. Breathed some products of combustion, resulted in illness at t home the next day (passed out twice at home) and eventually ended up in Hospital with CO exposure injury. Dick Weise related exposure to CO results in slowing of blood flow on arterial and venous sides.  Important to use the cyanide / CO RX after exposures. Related the LACoFD is developing standards for bloodwork on crew members with products of combustion exposures resulting in hospitalization, acceptable levels for returning to duty.   

Frank QualaCom – Provides communications equipment: sales, installation and service.

Mike Schlags - Rescue Carts Related a transport cart he designed and now manufactures for numerous incidents. Described some of the capabilities it offers and tied it’s use to injury prevention.

Mike Evans Solutions Safety – Complimented Dick on the PPE presentation and related the long history they’ve had in the NFPA 1851 standard. Related the various agency / departments that have implemented excellent SCAM programs to comply with 1851.  Encouraged all agencies to obtain extractors to cleanse PPE properly to reduce FF exposures and injuries.

Dick Weise LACoFD: KME prices are likely to increase as they have lost NYFD contract. Rosebourg Fire Equipment is looking to increase sales / service capability in the area / region.

Keith Gurrola Ventura Co FD (Retired) now Santa Paula FD -  Two out of four exposed crewmembers from the Mission Incident have retired, two more pending. One Type 1 apparatus retired as it was not able to be decontaminated after the exposure.    

Eric l. Higgins - Bestway Laundry systems, Manufacturer rep and sales / service for extractors.

      Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment,

 

  • 1200 Meeting Adjourned

  • Next Month Long Beach FD (Tentative)

     

 

 

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Michael Schlags – Cobra Rescue Litters

mschlags@cobra litters.com

P.O. Box 1981

Buelton, CA 93427-1981

(805) 896-7993

www.cobralitter.com

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

Scott Pereguy

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Tyson Raner – Systems Consultant –  Construction Innovations

(855) 725-9555

(916) 502-3414

5716 Folsom Blvd Suite 155

Sacramento, CA95819

Tyson.raner@constructioninnovations.com

Self-Contained , Portable Fire Alarm System

 

Ford Davies – B&D Safety Systems Inc. (Business Development)

(916) 765-8648 Cell/text

(800) 983-3518 Central Station

fdavies@bdsafetysystems.com

www.bdsafetysystems.com

Associates with: SecureWatch and FireWatch electronic monitoring units

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

 

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA

 

Jay Terry   Terry’s Canvas

terryscanvas@aol.com

2925 Palomino Court

Ontario, CA 91761

Phone (909) 947-7998

www.terrysfireequipment.com

 

Stuart Lovi – Regional Manager - SCOTT Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158 Fax

slovi@tycoint.com

www.scottsafety.com

 

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety

jime@solutionssafety.com

 

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment

lazarom@icloud.com

(626) 255-0433 Cell

 

 Meeting Attendees (Sign-In's)

Agency

Name

Phone #

email

Los Angeles County Fire

Dick Weise

951 808-1914

RWEISELACOFD@YAHOO.COM

Downey Fire (Retired)

Chuck Seely

(562) 824-3225

firebiz@att.net

Los Angeles County Fire (Retired)  / MES

John Price

jprice@mesfire.com

Quala-Tel

Frank Uram

858-577-2900

furam@qualatel.com

Camp Pendleton Fire (Retired)

Jeff Wilkerson

(949) 830-4087

jwilker@cox.net

Santa Paula Fire

Keith Gurrola

kgurrloa@spcity.org

AllStar Fire Equipment

Joe Sposato

joes@AllStarFire.com

H3 Safety Marketing

Brian Harvick

855-723-8943

brian@h3associates.com

Bestway Laundry Solutions

Eric Higgins

1-800-542-6166

sales@bestwayls.com

OCFA

Russ Snider

714-308-4338

russsnider@ocfa.org

Burbank Fire

Jeff Howe

jHowe@BurbankCa.gov

Cobra Litters

Michael Schlags

805-896-7993

mschlags@gmail.com

AllStar Fire Equipment

Lazaro Martinez

626-255-0433

lazarom@allstarfire.com

Los Angeles County Fire

Alvin Brewer

Alvin.Brewer@Fire.LACounty.gov

FireWatch Alarm

Ford Davies

FDavies54@gmail.com

FireWatch Alarm

Tyson Raner

Tyson.Raner@constructioninnovations.com

Los Angeles County Fire

Mark Mihaljevich

Mark.Mihaljevich@Fire.LACounty.gov

Los Angeles County Fire

Brian Jordan

Brian.Jordan@Fire.LACounty.gov

Western States Fire Equipment

Louie Garcia

213-272-5680

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

Bestway Laundry Solutions

Scott Perguy

1-800-542-6166

sales@bestwayls.com

Los Angeles City Fire (Retired)

James Dolan

562-400-1298

JSDolan123@AOL.com

SCOTT Safety

Stuart Lovi

Slovi@tycoint.com

Los Angeles City Fire

Scott Quinn

213-434-1380

scott.quinn@lacity.org

Santa Paula Fire

Austin Macias

Amacias@spcity.org

Santa Paula Fire

Dustin Lazenby

Dlazenby@spcity.org

Encinitas Fire Dept

Jim Gibson

JGibson@EncinitasCa.gov

Encinitas Fire Dept

Mike Guralski

Michaelguralski@sbcglobal.net

Long Beach Fire

Paul Alvarado

Paul.Alvarado@

Los Angeles Fire

John Cardenas

John.Cardenas@LACity.org

Fed Fire Ventyra County

Jack Koltaj

Jack.Koltaj@navy.mil

SC Products

Jim Evans

JimE@SolutionSafety.com

NASA / JPLFD

Alex Villegas

Avillegas@JPL.NASA.gov

NASA / JPLFD

Marquis Campbell

Marquis.Campbell78@yahoo.com

NASA / JPLFD

Carlos Ulloa

Carlos.Ulloa@JPL.NASA.gov

NASA / JPLFD

Gerald Francel

JerryFrancel@yahoo.com

 

 

 

 

 

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - December 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

December 18, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:   President Fortman,  Seely, Lloyd , Quinn, Gurrola, Hudson, Past President’s Dolan, Duran and Newman.

Hosted by: Santa Fe Springs Fire Department

Mike Crook  – Fire Chief

1000    Meeting called to order – President Fortman – (B/C LAFD) Introduced D/C Hayward who welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military.

Thanks to Ruth and staff for outstanding  hospitality and breakfast.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

 

Program:

“Mission Incident” – Ventura County Fire Department

Capt. Weisenberg & Eng. Bill Taylor

Background: (KTLA News Report) http://ktla.com/2014/11/18/several-injured-when-vacuum-truck-explodes-in-santa-paula-area/

More than three dozen people were injured Tuesday morning after a vacuum truck exploded at a wastewater disposal facility in the Santa Paula area, prompting evacuations and road closures in the surrounding area.The explosion occurred about 3:46 a.m. in the 800 block of Mission Rock Road (map), about half a mile southeast of the 126 Freeway, officials from the Ventura County Sheriff's Office and Fire Department said."It sounded like a car was coming through my house," said Mike Morin, who cares for dogs at a nearby animal rescue. The truck had been spraying a combustible white liquid at the time of the incident, fire Capt. Mike Lindbery confirmed to KTLA. The explosion spread the hazardous material around in a 300-foot radius, he said. Two workers at the scene, three firefighters and an ambulance driver were hospitalized with unknown injuries, according to Sheila Murphy, a county spokeswoman. Twelve others were being held for observation, she said.

The three firefighters' boots had "spontaneously combusted" when they came in contact with the white liquid from the vacuum truck, said Rick Macklin of the Ventura County Fire Department. The compounds appeared to be sulfuric acid and an organic peroxide, according to Dr. Robert Levin, Ventura County Public Health's medical director.

The owner of Santa Clara Waste Water Co., where the explosion occurred, said the business was established in 1959 and never had a major problem such as Tuesday's. The plant only takes nonhazardous waste, owner Doug Edwards said."This is unheard of, that's why we're so taken aback," Edwards said. The truck that blew up was delivering industrial waste, he said. Aerial footage showed firefighters working to extinguish several small spot fires that were still burning at the facility as of 10 a.m. The blaze was being allowed to burn out on its own into the night. Authorities hoped to begin an investigation into the cause of the explosion by 8 p.m. Fire officials did not want to spray water on the blaze because they were afraid chemicals would run into the nearby Santa Clara River. Mandatory evacuations were ordered for all residents within 1 mile of 815 Mission Rock Road, authorities said. A shelter-in-place order was issued for residents within 2 to 3 miles of that location. A Red Cross shelter was open at 530 West Main Street (map).Mission Rock Road was closed to all traffic until further notice. For several hours, a 6-mile stretch of Highway 126 was closed in both directions between Wells and Peck roads (map). Briggs and Olivelands elementary school were closed as a result of the incident.

The cause of the explosion, which occurred about 50 miles west-northwest of downtown Los Angeles, was not immediately known. Updates on road closures, evacuation orders and shelters were available online at vcemergency.com

 

“Training” Presentation: (Accompanying PowerPoint with embedded video and incident audio)

 November 18, 2014 –0356 hours Incident# 14-0075269 – Santa Clara Waste Water Treatment Facility.

Units responded to reported explosion and fire that became a major HazMat incident with civilian and fire fighter injuries. Ultimately four fire personnel have been retired due to exposure to chemicals and Ventura County Engine 26 had to be salvaged. 

Location was only permitted to receive waste water (sewage). Incident was located in Santa Paula. Patients transported to VCMC and “walk-ins” needed decontamination but accurate ID of materials was not initially available. ER was ultimately shut down due to contamination by an “unknown contaminate” from patients.  A total of three area hospitals were impacted by the incident. Speaker related he should have requested additional SAFETY OFFICERS to make notifications to all impacted agencies / institutions. As “unknown” liquid dried into a crystalline form, it became “shock sensitive” which resulted in an explosion when the rig was moved and when crews walked on material. Ultimately agents from ATF took the material to a lab for analysis (outside their vehicle) as no other labs wanted the “unknown” in their laboratory. The material was thrown over all area, where it dried and became “shock sensitive”.  Todd Road Jail (a nearby facility), Animal Compound (pit bull rescue), and Santa Paula Carwash has oxidizer spread to those locations.  One entire Fed Typed HazMat Team was pulled off the incident to conduct / support decontamination at the Hospital. Incident Safety Officer related they needed their agency helicopter to provide an area view of the incident. 37 people were treated for exposure to the chemical.  70+ dogs removed by volunteers under direction of Sheriff and Incident Safety Officer. LACoFD HazMat 150 responded under Mutual Aid to assist and handled the Todd Jail portion of the incident. They were later replaced with Federal HazMat Team 72. As fire consumed plastic totes and adjacent storage containers, numerous chemicals were mixing and reacting issuing toxic clouds. The HazMat crew(s) worked with DA’s Environmental Crimes Section to sample all totes and other storage containers on site and at an additional storage site used for truck / trailer storage.

The Incident follow-up investigations have resulted in 180 indictments issued to business principles so far.

Lessons Learned:

  • Establish strong control measures at the FRO level.

  • S.I.N. (Safety, Isolate / Deny Entry, Notifications)

  • Deny EXIT as well as entry of personnel until decon has been addressed

  • Coordinate early with Law Enforcement for strong site access control.

  • If you are challenged with containing possible contaminated individuals – contact the surrounding hospitals and neighboring jurisdictions ASAP.  

  • Attempt to verify what RP has told you about the product:

  • Review intel

  • CERS (California Environmental Reporting System)

  • Inventories reviewed may not always be accurate.

  • More Safety Officers early in the incident

  • Focus on AREA Control

  • Notify poson control safety as quickly as possible.

  • Establish relationships with outside resources that will support your operations. (ie local, area, regional or national laboratories)

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Roundtable:

Steve Cooley – MES, Wished everyone in SAFER a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year

Eric l. Higgins - Bestway Laundry systems, Manufacturer rep and sales / service for extractors.

Tom Ramstead and Tracy Rabe- Line Gear Fire Rescue Equipment, Representing several product lines.

Jim Evans – Wishes everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment, Thanks first responders for service.

Mike Scheldge – Rescue Litter, A new SAFER vender: Has designed a “Rescue Litter” with unique design features allowing exceptional maneuverability for fire / rescue as well as Law incidents.

Frank Uram –Qual-Com Communications – Handling DRONES from Northrop-Grumman that have IR camera as well as remote camera functions.

Eric Fullerton Fire (Retired)

Louie Rodreguez – CSFA – Happy Holidays, gave a gift to Steve Lloyd – retiring SAFER Treasurer.

Scott Marsahll L.N. Curtis – Has Smith detection equipment, rain gear for up-coming El Nino rainy season.

 Keith Gurrola – Santa Paula Fire Department (Ventura County Fire Department retired): Now working for Santa Paula FD.

  • 1200 Meeting Adjourned , next meeting January 15 th , 2016 at 0930 hours, Los Angeles County Camp 2 in La Canada. Program: “Blue Card” Program” – Alan and Nick Brunacini.

     

    Los Angeles County Fire Department – Camp 2, 4810 North Oak Drive, La Canada Flintridge, CA 91011-3759. Contact: Capt. Dick Weise (951) 808-1914 Cell / rweiselacofd@yahoo.com

 

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

Jennifer Wise – Associate -  W.L. Gore & Associates

gore.com

jwise@wlgore.com

105 Vieve’s Way

Elkton, MD 21921

(410) 392-3600 Plant

(410) 506-5490

 

Tom Ramstead – Line Gear Fire and Rescue Equipment

Tracy Rabe – LineGear Fire and Rescue Equipment

www.LineGear.com

Sales @LineGear.com

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

(800) 466-7574

 

Louie Rodriguez – Long Beach Fire Department / CSFA Member Benefits Specialist

lrodriguez@csfa.net

1232 Q Street, Second floor

Sacramento, CA 95811

(800) 451-2732 Office

(714) 580-9338 Cell

www.csfa.net

 

Allen A. Rom – Metro Account Manager

Fire-Dex, LLC

www.firedex.com

allen@firedex.com

780 South Progress Drive

Medina, OH 44256

(330) 242-1923 Mobile

(330) 723-0000 Ext 312

 

Michael Schlags – Cobra Rescue Litters

mschlags@cobra litters.com

P.O. Box 1981

Buelton, CA 93427-1981

(805) 896-7993

www.cobralitter.com

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

 

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA92335

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Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co

NAME

PHONE #

EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)

Chuck Seely

(562) 824-3225

firebiz@att.net

Los Angeles Fire Dept/SAFER Pres

Ellsworth Fortman

(661) 6451810

ellsworth.fortman@lacity.org

Quala-Tel

Frank Uram

furam@qualatel.com

Torrance Fire (RET.)

Steve Lloyd

shlloyd@yahoo.com

los Angeles Fire Department

Scott Quinn

231-434-1380

scott.quinn@lacity.org

Ventura County Fire Dept

Mike Weisenberg

Fire-Dex

Ventura County Fire Dept

Ventura County Fire Dept

Bestway Laundry Solutions

Ventura County Fire Dept

Michael Weisenberg

805 990-4326

michael.weisenberg@ventura.org

Hemet Fire Department (Ret.)

Scott Hudson

951-694-2591

scotth@snow-line.com

CSFA/Long Beach FD

Louie Rodriguez

714-580-9338

lrodriguez@csfa.net

L.N Curtis

Scott Marshall

(626) 840-7589

smarshall@lncurtis.com

H3 Safety Marketing

Brian Harvick

6616451845

brian@h3associates.com

Los Angeles County Fire

Dick Weise

951 808-1914

RWEISELACOFD@YAHOO.COM

Torrance Fire Dept

Steve Deuel

310-781-7019

sdeuel@torranceca.gov

Cobra Litters LLC

Michael Schlags

805-896-7993

mschlags@cobralitter.com

Ventura County Fire Dept

Aimin Alton

Ventura County Fire Dept

William Taylor

Allstar Fire Equipment Inc.

Lazaro Martinez

626-255-0433

lazarom@allstarfire.com

Ventura City FD

Lou Manzano

805-256-8522

lmanzano@cityofventura.net

Santa Paula Fire

Dustin Lazenby

805-794-0026

dlazenby@spcity.org

Santa Paula Fire

Keith Gurrola

8053771491

kgurrola@spcity.org

Bestway Laundry Solutions

Eric Higgins

18005426166

sales@bestwayls.com

Los Angeles City

Jim Dolan

562-400-1298

jsdolan123@aol.com

Fullerton Fire

Eric Newman

7145159471

on4day4ever@aol.com

LA County FD

Tony Duran

626-590-2991

Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com

MES

Steve Cooley

805-490-9949

scooley@mesfire.cm

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equip

Tom Ramstead

949 709 8808

Sales@LineGear.com

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equip

Tracy Rabe

929 709 8808

Tracy@LineGear.com

 

 

SAFER Monthly Meeting - November 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

November 20, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:   President Fortman,  Seely, Lloyd , Quinn, Gurrola, Sposato

Los Angeles Fire Department

Frank Hotchkins Training Center

Ralph Terrazas  – Fire Chief

0945    Meeting called to order – President Fortman – (B/C LAFD) opened the meeting and lead the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military.

Thanks to LAFD Firefighters Local for Coffee Station.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

**Quick Roundtable to begin a modified meeting formataccommodating the presentation “FireStats”:

Joe Sposato – (Vender Liaison) Related the Hawaiian Fire Chiefs Association Conference is next month in Honalulu, new SCOTT AIR PAK selected bySanta Monica FD is on display downstairs. (5500) PSI 45 minute bottle. 

Peggy Curtis  - Fire-Dex - we make Turnout Gear, Helmets, Boots, Hoods, and Gloves as well as Wildland garments.  937-974-7271

Frank Uram – Qualatel Communications: Related he is interested in receiving input  as to utility and desired functionality of (1) Electronic Version of “Keytags” for tracking equipment &  (2) DRONES in the Fire Service.

Scott Quinn – LAFD : Several injuries in LAFD recently – both are now Cal-OSHA Investigations, new class of 53 graduating next Tuesday.

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment - Rep for Black Diamond Leather Boot and Frank Piriano www.blackdiamond.com

 

Jennifer Wise – W.L. Gore and Associates – Gore paralon liner system is big improvement over old liner - improved wicking and thermal protection characteristics.

Keith Gurrola – Ventura County Fire Retired  

Jim - PlymoVent exhaust removal systems – all good

Eric Bestway Laundry Solutions – See downstairs display , Provides equipment and service for PPE laundry.

Stuart Lovi – SCOTT Safety - Related new features on newest SCBA’s, has IR camera on display downstairs on the drill floor. 

 

Program:          

FIRESTATS ™ – Data Analysis for the fire Service

Paul Rottenberg MBA, MPH

(530) 478-0657

paul@FireStats.com

10366 Hawke Lane

Nevada City, CA 65959

Bio:

FireStats is a consulting firm specializing in the analysis of fire service data and in teaching analysis techniques to fire service officers. Company founder, Paul Rottenberg, is a management consultant with over 20 years of experience in economic service and consulting to and for industry and local government. For the past 15 years Paul has been doing economic, data management and policy work on environmental and public works and public safety projects in California, Florida, and East Asia. He has worked with many of the different departments at the State government level in California and with California, Florida and Texas counties, special districts and cities and is a USFA Subject Matter Expert on Deployment Analysis. Paul spent ten years as an active paid-call firefighter/apparatus engineer/EMT with a combination fire department in Northern California and keeps current most of his certifications, including California Firefighter I, Hazmat, EMT and driver/operator.

Additional References:

  1. “Make Better Decisions: Put Your Data to Work”  - IAFC On Scene: April 1, 2012

    http://www.iafc.org/MemberCenter/OnSceneArticle.cfm?ItemNumber=5840

    An outline of Mr. Rottenbergs’ April 1, 2012 presentation to the IAFC.

     

  2. FireStats - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC20uQtmOJzg-657c2vAfxYQ

     

    Paul Rottenberg of FireStats, LLC., narrates short video demonstrations on the use of Excel in analyzing fire service data sets.

Program:

Science of statistics, Would like to see the fire service be more invested in the continuum of healthcare, more of a partner in academic research,

"Statics s the science that makes generalizations, and therefore all progress, possible.  

Like most sciences, it of often misunderstood’. More than most sciences, it is abused by the cynical and rejected by the foolish and obstructive."  -Paul Rottenberg (circa 11/20/15)

We want to find the balance between questioning statistics and common sense.

Your Go-To Graphics and Tables

  1. *Bar Charts

  2. *Data Tables

  3. *Histograms

  4. *Box and Whisker Plots

Examples of each were discussed, limitations and advantages of each were highlighted:

  1. A Better Bar Chart has a title and label on it.  Just like a good map.  

  2. Histogram, continuous data shown graphically

  3. Box and Whisker Plots.  Box in the middle is 50% of the data, with 25% on either side.

     

  • A major limitation in data analysis in the FIRESERVICE is we do not have a uniform methodology in calculating response times from a statistical perspective.  

  • Pie Charts - Color is the enemy of statistics, in introduces an element that makes the grim and sober job of doing statistics harder.  

  • Bias is everywhere and a polite term in statistics.  Refers to systematic error.

  • Bias in presentation of results - Scale for a graph can be chosen to depict a small change look like a big change, or vice versa.  

  • Bar graphs, the highest value should not exceed 75% of the Y axis.

  • Publication bias - Many journals are much too keen to publish reports that give a positive result regarding efficacy of a new regime, compared to the negative trials that did not find any difference.  If a 'vote count' is done on the basis of the published reports, positive results would hugelythe negative results, although the fact may be just the reverse.  

  • Self - selection bias

  • Evaluation of this presentation has a potential for selection bias due to potential respondent leaving (attrition).

  • Selection Bias by a Researcher - walmart example in kentucky during an amo sale with 12 white male respondants that 90% say they will vote for Rand Paul.

  • Outliers and Thresholds.  How do we account for it?

  • The bell curve, the outliers will be out there in the standard divations.  

  • It seems that throwing out 3 standard deviations to the right of the mean is ok in most statistical analysis, unless talking about response times, some of those long responses are very important. Policy to review data “outside” the established thresholds

  •   Policy to review data “outside” the established thresholds – (anything over 10:00 get's special review)  Set the special attention further back in the data to give you a defensible position.

  • Change that it is attributable to an assignable cause or random variation.  If there is no assignable cause?  Then it is random variation.

  • For analysis purposes we have to have a cutoff somewhere.

  • Outliers and Thresholds (visible best in various chart types)

  • ***Developing stats / analysis / display choices to determine “Change due to an assignable cause”

  • GIS does not have rules for coloration, even though jurisdictions may be different, the colors they represent for measure different things but the underlining numbers may be totally different.

Reliability:

  1. “How often you handle your “own district” calls” (AVL vrs defined districts)

  2. Potential “side issue in considering reliability is Training and collateral duties being missed due to call volume

Probability:

  1. Sampling:    Populations versus samples

  2. Confidence intervals and levels

  3. Role Variables:

      • Estimating the strength of relationships

      • Correlation and Regression

  • Small Data is hard to understand as random variation has a visible effect. Consider collecting more data:

      1. Consider more measures

      2. Consider sampling (confidence)

*** Philosophical Problem on the subject of estimates:

The current thinking seems to promote the perception that what actually happened is the most important evidence of an agency’s capabilities.

But last year’s data is just a sample of what could have happened.

Last year’s 23 fires will not be the next years 19 or 28 fires. Different buildings will burn and random variation in the counts will necessarily occur.

 

***PowerPoint Presentation from Fire Stats™ was not available for inclusion in the meeting minutes.

 

1200 Meeting Adjourned , next meeting December 18th in Santa Fe Springs.

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Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

Jennifer Wise – Associate -  W.L. Gore & Associates

gore.com

jwise@wlgore.com

105 Vieve’s Way

Elkton, MD 21921

(410) 392-3600 Plant

(410) 506-5490

 

Paul Rottenberg MBA, MPH-  FireStats ™

paul@FireStats.com

(530) 478-0657

10366 Hawke Lane

Nevada City, CA 95959

 

Stuart Lovi -  Regional Manager, SCOTT Health and Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158

www.scottsafety.com

slovi@tycoint.com

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

Frank Piraino – National Sales Manager – BLACK DIAMOND

fpiraino@bdboots.com

(315)247-3260

113 Plaxdale Road

Liverpool , NY13088

 

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA92335

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Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co                                       NAME                         PHONE #                     EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)                       Chuck Seely                (562) 824-3225           firebiz@att.net

Quala-Tel                                            Frank Uram                858-577-2900furam@qualatel.com

Ventura County Fire                         Michael Weisenberg 805 914-4647                                   

michael.weisenberg@ventura.org

Western States Fire Equipment       Louie Garcia               213-272-5680lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

                                                                                                            jbeauvais@firefighterscu.org

Ventura County Fire (Ret)                Keith Gurrola             805-377-1491keith.gurrola@ventura.org

Los Angeles City Fire                         Scott Quinn                213-434-1380scott.quinn@lacity.org

Bestway Laundry Solutions            Eric Higgins                 1-800-542-6166

                                                                                                            sales@bestwayls.com

CalFire                                                 Barry Owens            951-218-4309Barry.Owens@fire.ca.gov

Ventura                                              Aimin Alton                323-895-0589aimin.alton@ventura.org

Firedex                                                Peggy Curtis               937-974-7271peggycurtis@firedex.com

Ventura                                              Niki Carmichael         805-910-5288                                                                                                                                                              niki.carmichael@ventura.org

Ventura                                              Victor Low                  805-234-2777victor.low@ventura.org

BestWay Laundry Systems               Eric Higgins                 800-542-6166Sales@bestwayls.com

PlyoVent                                            JIM CLEARY                 909-720-7064jtc1@roadrunner.com

Ventura                                              Mike Valley                805-479-9176michael.valley@ventura.org

LAFD                                                    Ellsworth Fortman     6616451810                                                                                                                                                                ellsworth.fortman@lacity.org

 

 

SAFER Monthly Meeting - September 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

September 18, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:   VP Weise, Past President Duran, Carey,  Seely,  Lloyd , Quinn, Wilkerson, Snyder,  Gurrola,  Sposato

Orange County Fire Authority

 Jeff Bowman – Fire Chief

0940    Meeting called to order – Capt Tony Duran – (HazMat Coordinator LACoFD) opened the meeting by introducing OCFA Assistant Chief Thomas who welcomed SAFER to OCFA and lead the flag salute and moment of silence.

Thanks to AllStar for breakfast hospitality

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

Program:          

***Change of scheduled program (DRONES in the Fire Service) due to a family emergency for the presenter -  Substitute program:                                      

Yernell Fire

Captain Dick Weise – LACoFD

Yernell Fire – Granite Mountain June 30, 2013

Granite Mountain Hot Shot Crew – 19 LODD’s

Background: The Yarnell Hill Fire was a wildfire near Yarnell, Arizona, ignited by lightning on June 28, 2013. On June 30, it overran and killed 19 City of Prescott firefighters, members of the Granite Mountain Hotshots. The wildfire was fully contained by July 10, 2013.This event resulted in the highest wildland firefighter death toll in the United States since the 1933 Griffith Park Fire killed 29 firefighters, and the highest death toll from any U.S. wildfire since the 1991 East Bay Hills fire killed 25 people. It is the sixth deadliest American firefighter disaster overall and the deadliest wildfire ever in Arizona

PowerPoint presentation

June 28, 2013 – 37 Active fires in Arizona. Many agencies from several states adjacent to Arizona contributed resources.

Excerpts from “SERIOUS ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION REPORT”:

10 / 18 Discussed

Key factors from the Yernell Incident where discussed while reviewing the 10 / 18 and select wildland strategies. Crew “Typing” (Type 1 vs Type 2) was discussed as it often relates in multi-agency deployments / assignments.

Recent studies regarding 1977 PPE ensembles and their effects on individual decision making with crew fatigue was related.

Photos were shown that were taken by the crew before the burn-over incident (cell phones / digital cameras), visual cues that help identify fire behavior and potential hazards were discussed.

Changes in fire behavior as seen in the photos were discussed as an indicator of changing fire behavior.

10 / 18 Explained:

The Ten Standard Fire Orders and Eighteen Watchout Situations have been developed over the course of the last five or six decades by the wildland fire community.  Each of the Fire Orders and Watchouts have been learned from incidents in which that situation has led to a fatality, entrapment, or near miss incident.  These are stressed to wildland firefighters and every firefighter is expected to remember each of them, even rookies. The Standard Fire Orders are the laws to live by for wildland firefighters.  The Watchout Situations are indicators or trigger points that remind firefighters to reanalyze the LCES system (Lookouts, Communications, Escape Routes, and Safety Zones) and to re-evaluate their suppression strategies and tactics.  Each of these have been written by the blood of wildland firefighters who have lost their lives fighting fire.  One of the first tragedy fires that contributed to the development of the 10 & 18 was the Mann Gulch Fire in Montana. This happened in 1949 and 13 USFS Montana Smokejumpers were killed.  A book written by Norman Maclean called Young Men and Fire tells the entire story of the fire. The Standard Fire Orders were revised (changed arrangement) in 2002, visitUSDA Fire and Aviation to view them.

The crew had 3 radios for Crew Boss and look-outs to share. They were assigned “point protection” (structure protection) on a ranch house (Boulder Ranch) in front of the fire. They choose a route to their assignment through unburned 12’ brush & rocky out-cropping’s instead of keeping in the burn.  Once at the ranch house, they had limited time to prep the site. When the look-out warned the fire was approaching they had about 10 minutes to prepare for the burn-over. They deployed their shelters but were hit by 2000 degree heat which quickly defeated the protective element of the shelters. (Shelters are designed to protect from radiant heat – not convected heat).  

Wind demonstration using the “Wind Wizard” technology was shown through each phase leading to the burn-over incident.

CO studies being conducted for firefighters. Dick related his experience with blood clots, secondary to CO exposure to multiple structure and wildland fires in a short period.  

   

Business Meeting:

11:40 Past President Duran opened meeting

OSHA Update: Scott Hudson – Absent , Tony related his experience at the “Continuing Challege” meeting in San Francisico - (How to survive a Cal-OSHA inspection).

NFPA update: Dick Weise – LACoFD – NFPA 1977 Wildland. 1971 Helmet Standard being looked at for appropriate length of service. Hoods are being evaluated for particulate protection using a ceramic component. Manufacturers are working to make PPE lighter, gloves with enhanced manipulation / dexterity.

Apparatus update: Tim – Absent. No reports

Vendor update – Joe Sposado – Oct 6,7 &8 Fire Tech Reno. Good classes, reasonable hotels and airfare.

Technology: Working to improve, Jon is working on background of website.

Treasures Report: Steven Lloyd presented the treasures report.

 

Open Forum and Round Table:

Jim Evans – Citro Squeeze – Related a bill in CA is working through the legislature to make NFPA 1851 as new law, making adhering to the standard required. Related the Citro-Squeeze product line has added SC-14 cleaner to the fire service to clean hydrocarbon residue from equipment and facilities.

Long Beach – B/C  Paul Alvarado – Related his experience upgrading his agencies PPE program. Spoke of the benefits the info received at SAFER made in their PPE purchases.  VP Pre-Mix fuels: Related they had issues with seizing 2-cycle saws because of the ethanol added to many fuels so they have begun using a purchased “pre-mixed” fuel blend. MotoMix is another brand related by Dick Weise. Added their department will revert back to two medics on a PM Squad after the LA EMS agency advised them the performance of the program was un-acceptable. (effective October 3rd)

Capt Mike Wizenberg – Ventura County Fire – Related about ¼ of the department will be retiring in the next few years. New training model (Learning Management System) being used for all personnel, Tracks training hours, required topic coverage, company activities of any type). Features “outside” invites for participants.

Eric Hainy – Areo Environment – Came for DRONE program. UAV manufacturer to military.

Steve Hoyle – Ca fire Museum – Related they have had several engines donated, some going through refurbishment. Crowd funding site on their Facebook page to refurb Long Beachs oldcivil defense rig. At “Cruising for Cure” – September 26th at Orange County Fairgrounds.

Steve Hoyle (additional information from email) – Orange County Fire Authority (Retired), CA Fire Museum Donations Coordinator - The California Fire Museum & Safety Learning Center has a GoFundMe site, we are raising money to paint our 1953 REO Civil Defense Rescue. Please go to GoFundMe.com/x9sfa4cg to donate. We (the Fire Museum) are accepting donations of any items related to the Fire Service, We have several engine’s we are currently in the process of outfitting and need anything used on an engine.

Contact: Steve Hoyle - Donation’s Coordinator

949-496-5688

stbear@cox,net

 

Jeff Wilkerson Camp Pendelton (Retired)

Kelly Witt – Workright Uniforms – Thanked OCFA for their business. Working with new fabrics with properties that the fire service will be interested in.  (Wildland Gen 2,  “Tech T4”).

Ed Carey – Santa Barbara Co FD (Retired)

Joe Sposado – AllStar Fire Equipment – Pasadena FD will soon put new SCOTT SCBA’s with 5500 PSI bottles. Ventura just was approved for SCBA Grant, AllStar now stocking the new Long Beach Spec. LBFD related their new PPE has been well received by crews. Akron now has a new intake valve with wheel actuation.

Keith Gurrola – Ventura County (Retired) – Lots of overhead and strike team deployments. Advises all participants to maintain training records / documentation for CICCS development through agency reps. State FM instructor update courses are coming to an end.

Julie Bovey – Firefighters First CU – 80th year anniversary this year. Check out their Facebook Page, check the website for entry to a drawing. 

BrianHarvick -  H3 – Introduces a new light for helmet mounted LED light: Great features with rear facing green light for buddy tracking, flood and spot forward. New design of fire axe.

Frank Orin – Qualitel Communications – Has systems for interfacing into radio’s, Bluetooth.

Ed Shaffer – LN Curtis – Has 2-cycle pre mixed fuels available – REMs (Rapid Extraction Module) Will be next month’s topic at L.N Curtis in La Mirada

Stuart Levi – SCOTT Safety – New SCOTT equipment has Bluetooth connectivity from radio to headset. Additionally they have a “crew comm” feature available. Escape belt feature now available on new airpacks.

John Ramirez – SCOTT Safety – Works on Military side of safety gear for SCOTT Safety. New technical data will be available from sensors (chemical, thermal images etc..) on SCOTT equipment that can be monitored world –wide.

Louie Garcia Western States Fire Equipment – Has equipment available now in California.

Eric –BestWay Laundry – Has new detergents available for PPE Maintenance. Sells, installs and maintains Extractor machines.

Scott Quinn LAFD – Tower classes are continuing, just took delivery of three rigs. LAFD is transitioning to single layer gear from a grant. Get “Homeland Study” to see justification to migrate to single layer.

Warehouse fire LAFD had revealed very high levels of CO and HCN during overhaul. The warehouse contained flooring, much of which was “laminate” type materials.

Babara -LACOFire Health HazMat – First meeting, manages some HazMat programs through the LACo Health – HazMat Division of the LACoFD.

BC Takasita LAFD –  Risk Management Manager – First Meeting related his experiences in his role.

Russ Snyder – ORCO – Thanked attendees for attending, has a recruit academy underway, for sees continuous tower classes for the next years. Has transitioned to new work uniforms.

Dick Weise LACoFD – Thanked venders for continuing support of SAFER and related the importance of vender participation.

Tony Duran – LACoFD HazMat Coordinator – Related the importance of decontamination methods should be begun as soon as possible after ANY potential exposure, not waiting till returning to quarters. County is running tower classes continuously. Ventura will be able to provide a basic review of the Mission Incident (The incident is still being litigated).

 

***All venders provided current particulars of their product lines and services.

1200 Meeting Adjourned , next meeting October xx, 2015 at L.N. Curtis in La Mirada.

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Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Ed Shabro – Sales Representative   L.N. Curtis & Sons

eshabro@LNCURTIS.com

16821 Knott Ave.

La Mirada, CA 90638

Phone (323) 780-0254

Toll Free (866) 557-0254

Cell (760) 250-1180

www.LNCURTIS.com

 

Stuart Lovi -  Regional Manager, SCOTT Health and Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158

www.scottsafety.com

slovi@tycoint.com

 

Lazaro Martinez – Regional Sales Representative – AllStar Fire Equipment

lazarom1@verizon.net

(626) 255-0433

 

Michelle Trout – CBRN Technical Specialist    LION Uniforms

MTrout@lionprotects.com

7200 Poe Street – Suite 400

Dayton, Ohio45414

(480) 225-1324

www.lionprotects.com

 

Brian Harvick – H3 Safety Marketing

H3safetymarketing.com

(855) 723-8943/    (855) SAFETY.H3

(661) 645-1845 Cell

25060 Hancock Ave. #103-226

Murrieta, CA     92562

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Kelly Whitt – Regional Account Executive – Workrite Uniform

kwhitt@workrite.com

(909) 289-5775

Workrite.com

1701 N. Lombard Street , Suite 200

Oxnard, CA 93030

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

Brett E. Maurits - Vice President, Sales – Public Safety – Redback Boot Co. USA

b.maurits@sbcglobal.net

(619) 203-6541

www.redbackboots.com

1031 S. Andreasen Drive #100

Escondido, CA92029

 

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA92335

 

Mark Sheldone – Fire Safety / Technical Specialist - Manufacture’s Representative

Days-Off Consultants – Fire Equipment Marketing

msheldone@sbcGlobal.net

(760) 505-3473 Cell

Carlsbad, CA 92008

 

Eric Haney – Unmanned Aircraft Systems

haney@avinc.com

www.avinc.com

(805) 581-2187

(805) 208-6840

900 Enchanted Way

Simi Valley, CA93065

 

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Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency                     NAME                      PHONE #                     EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire -Retired Chuck Seely (562)8243225      firebiz@att.net

LION                                   Michlle Trout  480-225-1324  

                                                                               mtrout@lionprotects.com

Quala-Tel                           Frank Uram     858-577-2900     

Ventura County Fire       Michael Weisenberg     80594647                                   

                                                                  michael.weisenberg@ventura.org

LN Curtis and Sons             Ed Shabro         

SBCRet.                      Ed Carey  805-895-9225   edwin.carey@gmail.com

calif. Fire museum        steve hoyle         949-496-5688   stbear@cox.net

Wolfpack Gear/Paso Robles Fire  Mike Oberndorfer  805.423.2691                       mike@wolfpackgear.com

LA County FD                                     Tony Duran                626-590           firetiget2013-

SAFER@yahoo.com

Western States Fire Equipment       Louie Garcia               213-272-5680lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

AeroVironment                                 Eric Haney                  805-6840         haney@avinc.com

Firefighters First CU                           Juloe Beauvais           323 216-6657

                                                                                                            jbeauvais@firefighterscu.org

Los Angeles County Fire                  Dick Weise                  951-807-1914rweiselacofd@yahoo.com

Camp Pendleton                                 Jeff Wilkerson                        9498304087    jwilker@cox.net

Ventura County Fire                          Keith Gurrola             805-377-1491keith.gurrola@ventura.org

Los Angeles City Fire                         Scott Quinn                213-434-1380scott.quinn@lacity.org

Bestway Laundry Solutions            Eric Higgins                 1-800-542-6166

                                                                                                            sales@bestwayls.com

OCFA                                                      Russ Snider                 714-308-4338russsnider@ocfa.org

LACoFD Health HazMat                    Barbara C. Vu             N/A                 N/A

Days-Off Consultants                        Mark Sheldone          760-505-3473

                                                                                                            msheldone@sbcglobal.net

Workrite Uniforms                            Kelly Whitt     9          09-289-5775    kwhitt@workrite.com

Redback Boots                                   Brett E. Maurits         619-203-6541b.maurits@sbcglobal.net

H3 Safety Marketing                         Brian Harvick             855-723-8943brian@h3associates.com

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SAFER Monthly Meeting - August 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

August 21, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:  President Fortman, VP Weise, Carey,  Seely,  Lloyd , Quinn, Wilkerson, Snyder

Carlsbad Fire Department

Safety Training Center

5750 Orion Way,

Carlsbad, CA

Mike Davis – Fire Chief

 

0940    Meeting called to order – President Ells Fortman

Thanks to FIRE ETC for breakfast hospitality, and Lion -  AllStar for lunch.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

President Fortman opened the meeting by introducing Deputy Chief Mike Lopez who welcomed SAFER to Carlsbad and lead the flag salute and moment of silence. Chief Lopez briefed the attendees on the “Safety Training Center” and some of the particulars of the Carlsbad Fire Department. (11000 calls a year / 85% medical, 6 stations, 83 sworn personnel). Chief Lopez related the training facility cost $14 million dollars to build and it’s made the Carlsbad firefighters, police and public employees better.

Chief Lopez thanked the fire service attendees for their service and the venders for their contribution to firefighter safety through PPE improvement(s) and safety product development and support.

Chief Lopez congratulated Deputy Chief Jeff Wilkerson (MCP) on his retirement and thanked him for 38 years of service to the fire service. The group joined with a standing ovation to Chief Wilkerson. 

Chief Lopez introduced Battalion Chief Jeff Chumbley who would present the program.

Program:

Poinsettia Fire – July 14, 2014

                        Battalion Chief  Jeff Chumbley –  Carlsbad  Fire Department

On May 14, 2014, at approximately 10:34 am, the Poinsettia Fire ignited in Carlsbad burning nearly 400 acres and destroyed several structures. BC Chumbley related the initial actions and resource profile utilized on the incident. He described how other active incidents in the region impacted this incident and how other area command officers (including area Fire Chiefs) assisted in the management of the incident. He reviewed the Incident Organizational Chart and discussed lessoned learned for future incidents including assigning a Safety Officer sooner in the incident. Chief Chumbley discussed the concepts of “Fire Front Following”, “Anchor and Hold” and “Transitional Attack” tactics as they are employed on “urban Interface” incidents. He related the difficulty with communications as the incident grew – necessity to move to dedicated frequencies and radio systems (800Mhz vs. VHF). Chief Lopez discussed the importance of developing FMAG application and support documentation to support the financial dimensions of these types of incidents. Incident was an LAR (Local Area Resource) fire so the usual support that occurs with other large incidents that enjoy support of the various “IMT’s (Incident Management Team(s) was not available / applicable.

A Commercial Fire (Sound-Eklin) occurred during this UI fire and the responding firefighters saved the companies “data” from their building by removing the computers / records which ultimately saved the company’s future.    

Critical Factors:

  1. 2% fine fuel moisture

  2. 100% Probability of flame capture

  3. 446 Chains(29,436 feet) / hour

  4. 5.58 MPH

Lessons learned:

  1. Red Flag conditions / Wildland Response

  2. Leader’s intent vs. Independent action.

  3. FD/PD Unified Command

  4. Equipment prepared for Urban Interface / Wildland response

  5. Power lines SDG&E

  6. Air Support – VLAT / Air Attack / Rotor and fixed Wing

  7. Full CDF Wildland Response

  8. “No Divert” on air assets when lives are at risk

  9.  Driving into heavy smoke

  10. Position Qualification’s (STL / Engine Boss / DIVS)

  11. Limited resources due to other active incidents

  12. Local resource depletion (Vista Fire)

  13. EOC Opened:

  1. Logistics Support

  2. Base Campo Support

  3. PIO

  4. Mapping

  5. IAP

  1. Base Camp:

  1. Releasing Resources

  2. Relief of Existing crews

  3. Contingency plans for incident resource needs

  1. Salvage and Overhaul of personal effects of residents / businesses

Powerpoint:

Videos:

 

Business Meeting:

11:40

OSHA Update: Scott Hudson – Absent. Scott Quin related LAFD is averaging 1 injury / month. He recommends a heat “Risk Assessment” be included in your departments Risk Documents. Ells related the person responsible for reporting to OSHA needs to be notified in a timely manner to meet the 24 hour reporting requirement and avoid large penalties. LACofd related the death of a Lifeguard who died while pool testing.

NFPA update: Dick Weise – LACoFD - began discussing NFPA 1977 regarding wildland helmets, destructive testing and vented helmets, fire shelter industry variances in materials, designs and weight. (15-18 options available). Discussed the SCAM document (NFPA 1854)  for wildland PPE and the pro’s and con’s (single layering)., Cleaning/Contaminates: Biological and Chemical with regards to disinfection/cleaning. Update on Fire Protection Research Foundation (funding, and PPE Cleaning)

DRD. Drag Rescue Device Survey report for Public Input. Chemical List, revision/update list regarding addition/deletion and hydraulic fluid(s) (Phosphors ester) effects on moisture barriers. Survey produced well over 1700 responses and mobile ISP’s Carbon Monoxide Study for firefighters for low level, long term effects and high levels in short term.  UCLA and St Joseph Hospital to study effects regarding respiratory, cardiac, stroke, and deep vein thrombosis related to CO exposure.

LACoFD is now transitioning to single layer wildland PPE, webgear being redesigned with FR material by Mystery Ranch Manufacturing. Hydration standard is being developed for consideration as a Health and Safety mandate , 1854 SCAM Doc for wildland. New STIHL chainsaws are being developed with injection instead of chainsaw. “Motomix” comes pre-mixed for 2-cycle fuel. Has better characteristics than the gasoline being proposed for CA (Ethanol additives). Gloves being studied for protective characteristics. When fire room is pressurized many contaminates enter our crews bodies through their skin via porous PPE at hood, neck, wrists and around the waist. A new moisture barrier is being developed to better isolate our crews from toxins at those locations.

Apparatus update: Tim – Absent. Ells related LAFD took possession of several KME triples that have selected NFPA standard deficits. Narrow captains seat area, rough engine cowling etc. The new units weren’t ordered with exhaust that connects to PlyMoVent Exhaust removal systems. 

Vendor update - Lazaro Martinez discussed the recent sales activity and three dimensional glove product.

Technology:

Treasures Report: Steven Lloyd presented the treasures report. Approximately $2400 in reserves. Discussed recent dues contributions from website.

 

Open Forum and Round Table:

Scott - Ventura County: Discussed “Peck Fire” MTZ (Multiple Threat Zone) Vehicle over the side starting a brush fire. LACofd, LAFD and Ventura County responded with Copter 19. Victim crawled into a tunnel / pipe under the freeway till fire burned over. OSHA experience: a tree trimmer death caused by palm fronds caused the agency to make a Cal-OSHA notification. Related an injury to a crew member while climbing over a fence with a ground ladder that resulted in serious leg fracture. Mission Incident investigation has made seven arrests relating to illegal storage of hazardous materials. Two rigs were exposed to hazardous chemicals and will not be cleaned / sanitized to allow return to service.

Jim Evans – Citro Squeeze – Introduced a new specialist (Gabriel Flores) who knows the pump systems used in extractor washing machines. Related California is drafting a standard based on the provisions in NFPA 1851 as Texas has done. Will likely impact budget requirements for PPE going forward.   

San Diego City

Steve Lloyd – Torrance

Santa Barabara – Ed  

Peggy Curtice – Fire-Dex – Related a three dimensional glove

Russ Snyder ORCO Fire – Just Promoted 19 engineers, new academy class graduating next week. Expecing a rash of Santa Ana Guys to retire next year which will necessitate additional hiring.

Gabriel Flores – Pump expert that supports 1851 extractor units

Scott McKensy – Steadfast moisture technologies – Working with local depts. To develop/ support hoods etc.

Andy Spear Carlsbad FD – Thanked SAFER for coming to Carlsbad Safety Trng Cntr, 9 guys on probation, have numerous members assigned to incidents statewide. FS remodel under way.

John Nelson – Lion Uniforms – Related they have a tri-certified pant, will be promoting a multi bio uniform in the near future

Michele – Lion Related they’re promoting a new glove.

Dick Weise – LACoFD – Related they will be starting a recruit class next month. Related KME lost the FDNY contract and is spreading the loss across all future sales. LACoFD will be going out to bid on future apparatus purchases.

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment – Related a project to have “pods” designed for specific risks (mass casualty, chem / bio) distributed throughout the area/region/ state. Could be rapidly deployed to specific incidents with need upon request.

Stuart – SCOTT Safety – Introduced “Rescue belt” feature now available on SCOTT SCBA’s. Has a life safety rated belt strap. Related SCOTT bought ISG Infra-red cameras which will be the camera they develop and market in-house. Introduced a blue-tooth interfaced intercom for “crew com” and voice amplification. Radio (Incident comm) also interfaces to allow better communication with other resources.

Al Brewer - LACOFD – Tower classes being planned for “overlapping” recruit towers. Has a new female / civilian “Chief Officer”.  Investigating a serious accident incident where a crew fell through a roof and a helicopter hard landing near whittier hills during the recent fire in Montebello.

ScottQuinn – LAFD – Relating he was listening to the Mission Incident while driving in. Has a new class of recruits 43 that graduated yesterday. They remain 28 companies down, expect more hiring as they have an increased budget this year. Had an incident with a recruit that suffered the RHABDOMYOLOSIS illness.

Live fire program is still off pending development of new standards / controls. Lots of new construction projects underway in LA.

Ells – LAFD – Had several guys transported from Stations to local hospitals for chest pain. One was fairly minor, but one 31 year old had a serious heart condition –  took to a “not the closest” hospital at the request of the patient. Ells related it would be best to always follow the established operational standards when staff has emergency situations involving “our own” as the firefighter was in very serious condition on arrival at the emergency room.  Discussed “poaching” across jurisdictional lines.  Related a recent fire incident with trapped occupants.

SAFER : ORCO Fire Authority – next meeting, Dues will be solicited to support committee travel / participation and business costs (Website etc.)

LAFD Scott Quinn

All venders provided current particulars of their product lines and services.

Meeting Adjourned , next meeting September 18th, 2015 at Orange County Fire Authority.

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Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Ed Shabro – Sales Representative   L.N. Curtis & Sons

eshabro@LNCURTIS.com

16821 Knott Ave.

La Mirada, CA 90638

Phone (323) 780-0254

Toll Free (866) 557-0254

Cell (760) 250-1180

www.LNCURTIS.com

 

Scott Estrada – Vice President   FIRE ETC

Estrada@fire-etc.com

2190 Main Street

San Diego, CA 92113

Phone (619) 525-7286

Cell (619) 4033442

www.fire-etc.com

 

 

Stuart Lovi -  Regional Manager, SCOTT Health and Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158

www.scottsafety.com

slovi@tycoint.com

 

Jay Terry   Terry’s Canvas

terryscanvas@aol.com

2925 Palomino Court

Ontario, CA 91761

Phone (909) 947-7998

www.terrysfireequipment.com

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Michelle Trout – CBRN Technical Specialist    LION Uniforms

MTrout@lionprotects.com

7200 Poe Street – Suite 400

Dayton, Ohio45414

(480) 225-1324

www.lionprotects.com

 

Jon Nelson - CBRN Technical Specialist    LION Uniforms

jnelson@lionprotects.com

7200 Poe Street – Suite 400

Dayton, Ohio45414

(509) 994-7055

www.lionprotects.com

 

Gabriel Flores-  Regional Sales Manager, Western U.S. - SEKO Dosing Systems Corp.

gflores@sekousa.com

1103 Branagan Drive

Bristol, PA19007

Phone (866) 740-7623

www.sekousa>com

 

Scott Mackenzie- Business Development Manager-  STEDFAST USA Inc.

smackenzie@stedfast.com

Cell (602) 549-5817

Toll Free (888) 673-8841

6989 West Grovers Ave.

Glendale, AZ 85308

www.stedfast.com

 

Gabriel Flores- Chemical & Dosing Systems Consultant-  AFChemical

Gtfloresjr2@gmail.com

(209) 840-3860

1570 East F Street-  Suite A-156

Oakdale, CA95361

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

SAFER Monthly Meeting - August 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

August 21, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:  President Fortman, VP Weise, Carey,  Seely,  Lloyd , Quinn, Wilkerson, Snyder

Carlsbad Fire Department

Safety Training Center

5750 Orion Way,

Carlsbad, CA

Mike Davis – Fire Chief

 

0940    Meeting called to order – President Ells Fortman

Thanks to FIRE ETC for breakfast hospitality, and Lion -  AllStar for lunch.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

President Fortman opened the meeting by introducing Deputy Chief Mike Lopez who welcomed SAFER to Carlsbad and lead the flag salute and moment of silence. Chief Lopez briefed the attendees on the “Safety Training Center” and some of the particulars of the Carlsbad Fire Department. (11000 calls a year / 85% medical, 6 stations, 83 sworn personnel). Chief Lopez related the training facility cost $14 million dollars to build and it’s made the Carlsbad firefighters, police and public employees better.

Chief Lopez thanked the fire service attendees for their service and the venders for their contribution to firefighter safety through PPE improvement(s) and safety product development and support.

Chief Lopez congratulated Deputy Chief Jeff Wilkerson (MCP) on his retirement and thanked him for 38 years of service to the fire service. The group joined with a standing ovation to Chief Wilkerson. 

Chief Lopez introduced Battalion Chief Jeff Chumbley who would present the program.

Program:

Poinsettia Fire – July 14, 2014

                        Battalion Chief  Jeff Chumbley –  Carlsbad  Fire Department

On May 14, 2014, at approximately 10:34 am, the Poinsettia Fire ignited in Carlsbad burning nearly 400 acres and destroyed several structures. BC Chumbley related the initial actions and resource profile utilized on the incident. He described how other active incidents in the region impacted this incident and how other area command officers (including area Fire Chiefs) assisted in the management of the incident. He reviewed the Incident Organizational Chart and discussed lessoned learned for future incidents including assigning a Safety Officer sooner in the incident. Chief Chumbley discussed the concepts of “Fire Front Following”, “Anchor and Hold” and “Transitional Attack” tactics as they are employed on “urban Interface” incidents. He related the difficulty with communications as the incident grew – necessity to move to dedicated frequencies and radio systems (800Mhz vs. VHF). Chief Lopez discussed the importance of developing FMAG application and support documentation to support the financial dimensions of these types of incidents. Incident was an LAR (Local Area Resource) fire so the usual support that occurs with other large incidents that enjoy support of the various “IMT’s (Incident Management Team(s) was not available / applicable.

A Commercial Fire (Sound-Eklin) occurred during this UI fire and the responding firefighters saved the companies “data” from their building by removing the computers / records which ultimately saved the company’s future.    

Critical Factors:

  1. 2% fine fuel moisture

  2. 100% Probability of flame capture

  3. 446 Chains(29,436 feet) / hour

  4. 5.58 MPH

Lessons learned:

  1. Red Flag conditions / Wildland Response

  2. Leader’s intent vs. Independent action.

  3. FD/PD Unified Command

  4. Equipment prepared for Urban Interface / Wildland response

  5. Power lines SDG&E

  6. Air Support – VLAT / Air Attack / Rotor and fixed Wing

  7. Full CDF Wildland Response

  8. “No Divert” on air assets when lives are at risk

  9.  Driving into heavy smoke

  10. Position Qualification’s (STL / Engine Boss / DIVS)

  11. Limited resources due to other active incidents

  12. Local resource depletion (Vista Fire)

  13. EOC Opened:

  1. Logistics Support

  2. Base Campo Support

  3. PIO

  4. Mapping

  5. IAP

  1. Base Camp:

  1. Releasing Resources

  2. Relief of Existing crews

  3. Contingency plans for incident resource needs

  1. Salvage and Overhaul of personal effects of residents / businesses

Powerpoint:

Videos:

 

Business Meeting:

11:40

OSHA Update: Scott Hudson – Absent. Scott Quin related LAFD is averaging 1 injury / month. He recommends a heat “Risk Assessment” be included in your departments Risk Documents. Ells related the person responsible for reporting to OSHA needs to be notified in a timely manner to meet the 24 hour reporting requirement and avoid large penalties. LACofd related the death of a Lifeguard who died while pool testing.

NFPA update: Dick Weise – LACoFD - began discussing NFPA 1977 regarding wildland helmets, destructive testing and vented helmets, fire shelter industry variances in materials, designs and weight. (15-18 options available). Discussed the SCAM document (NFPA 1854)  for wildland PPE and the pro’s and con’s (single layering)., Cleaning/Contaminates: Biological and Chemical with regards to disinfection/cleaning. Update on Fire Protection Research Foundation (funding, and PPE Cleaning)

DRD. Drag Rescue Device Survey report for Public Input. Chemical List, revision/update list regarding addition/deletion and hydraulic fluid(s) (Phosphors ester) effects on moisture barriers. Survey produced well over 1700 responses and mobile ISP’s Carbon Monoxide Study for firefighters for low level, long term effects and high levels in short term.  UCLA and St Joseph Hospital to study effects regarding respiratory, cardiac, stroke, and deep vein thrombosis related to CO exposure.

LACoFD is now transitioning to single layer wildland PPE, webgear being redesigned with FR material by Mystery Ranch Manufacturing. Hydration standard is being developed for consideration as a Health and Safety mandate , 1854 SCAM Doc for wildland. New STIHL chainsaws are being developed with injection instead of chainsaw. “Motomix” comes pre-mixed for 2-cycle fuel. Has better characteristics than the gasoline being proposed for CA (Ethanol additives). Gloves being studied for protective characteristics. When fire room is pressurized many contaminates enter our crews bodies through their skin via porous PPE at hood, neck, wrists and around the waist. A new moisture barrier is being developed to better isolate our crews from toxins at those locations.

Apparatus update: Tim – Absent. Ells related LAFD took possession of several KME triples that have selected NFPA standard deficits. Narrow captains seat area, rough engine cowling etc. The new units weren’t ordered with exhaust that connects to PlyMoVent Exhaust removal systems. 

Vendor update - Lazaro Martinez discussed the recent sales activity and three dimensional glove product.

Technology:

Treasures Report: Steven Lloyd presented the treasures report. Approximately $2400 in reserves. Discussed recent dues contributions from website.

 

Open Forum and Round Table:

Scott - Ventura County: Discussed “Peck Fire” MTZ (Multiple Threat Zone) Vehicle over the side starting a brush fire. LACofd, LAFD and Ventura County responded with Copter 19. Victim crawled into a tunnel / pipe under the freeway till fire burned over. OSHA experience: a tree trimmer death caused by palm fronds caused the agency to make a Cal-OSHA notification. Related an injury to a crew member while climbing over a fence with a ground ladder that resulted in serious leg fracture. Mission Incident investigation has made seven arrests relating to illegal storage of hazardous materials. Two rigs were exposed to hazardous chemicals and will not be cleaned / sanitized to allow return to service.

Jim Evans – Citro Squeeze – Introduced a new specialist (Gabriel Flores) who knows the pump systems used in extractor washing machines. Related California is drafting a standard based on the provisions in NFPA 1851 as Texas has done. Will likely impact budget requirements for PPE going forward.   

San Diego City

Steve Lloyd – Torrance

Santa Barabara – Ed  

Peggy Curtice – Fire-Dex – Related a three dimensional glove

Russ Snyder ORCO Fire – Just Promoted 19 engineers, new academy class graduating next week. Expecing a rash of Santa Ana Guys to retire next year which will necessitate additional hiring.

Gabriel Flores – Pump expert that supports 1851 extractor units

Scott McKensy – Steadfast moisture technologies – Working with local depts. To develop/ support hoods etc.

Andy Spear Carlsbad FD – Thanked SAFER for coming to Carlsbad Safety Trng Cntr, 9 guys on probation, have numerous members assigned to incidents statewide. FS remodel under way.

John Nelson – Lion Uniforms – Related they have a tri-certified pant, will be promoting a multi bio uniform in the near future

Michele – Lion Related they’re promoting a new glove.

Dick Weise – LACoFD – Related they will be starting a recruit class next month. Related KME lost the FDNY contract and is spreading the loss across all future sales. LACoFD will be going out to bid on future apparatus purchases.

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment – Related a project to have “pods” designed for specific risks (mass casualty, chem / bio) distributed throughout the area/region/ state. Could be rapidly deployed to specific incidents with need upon request.

Stuart – SCOTT Safety – Introduced “Rescue belt” feature now available on SCOTT SCBA’s. Has a life safety rated belt strap. Related SCOTT bought ISG Infra-red cameras which will be the camera they develop and market in-house. Introduced a blue-tooth interfaced intercom for “crew com” and voice amplification. Radio (Incident comm) also interfaces to allow better communication with other resources.

Al Brewer - LACOFD – Tower classes being planned for “overlapping” recruit towers. Has a new female / civilian “Chief Officer”.  Investigating a serious accident incident where a crew fell through a roof and a helicopter hard landing near whittier hills during the recent fire in Montebello.

ScottQuinn – LAFD – Relating he was listening to the Mission Incident while driving in. Has a new class of recruits 43 that graduated yesterday. They remain 28 companies down, expect more hiring as they have an increased budget this year. Had an incident with a recruit that suffered the RHABDOMYOLOSIS illness.

Live fire program is still off pending development of new standards / controls. Lots of new construction projects underway in LA.

Ells – LAFD – Had several guys transported from Stations to local hospitals for chest pain. One was fairly minor, but one 31 year old had a serious heart condition –  took to a “not the closest” hospital at the request of the patient. Ells related it would be best to always follow the established operational standards when staff has emergency situations involving “our own” as the firefighter was in very serious condition on arrival at the emergency room.  Discussed “poaching” across jurisdictional lines.  Related a recent fire incident with trapped occupants.

SAFER : ORCO Fire Authority – next meeting, Dues will be solicited to support committee travel / participation and business costs (Website etc.)

LAFD Scott Quinn

All venders provided current particulars of their product lines and services.

Meeting Adjourned , next meeting September 18th, 2015 at Orange County Fire Authority.

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Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Ed Shabro – Sales Representative   L.N. Curtis & Sons

eshabro@LNCURTIS.com

16821 Knott Ave.

La Mirada, CA 90638

Phone (323) 780-0254

Toll Free (866) 557-0254

Cell (760) 250-1180

www.LNCURTIS.com

 

Scott Estrada – Vice President   FIRE ETC

Estrada@fire-etc.com

2190 Main Street

San Diego, CA 92113

Phone (619) 525-7286

Cell (619) 4033442

www.fire-etc.com

 

 

Stuart Lovi -  Regional Manager, SCOTT Health and Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158

www.scottsafety.com

slovi@tycoint.com

 

Jay Terry   Terry’s Canvas

terryscanvas@aol.com

2925 Palomino Court

Ontario, CA 91761

Phone (909) 947-7998

www.terrysfireequipment.com

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Michelle Trout – CBRN Technical Specialist    LION Uniforms

MTrout@lionprotects.com

7200 Poe Street – Suite 400

Dayton, Ohio45414

(480) 225-1324

www.lionprotects.com

 

Jon Nelson - CBRN Technical Specialist    LION Uniforms

jnelson@lionprotects.com

7200 Poe Street – Suite 400

Dayton, Ohio45414

(509) 994-7055

www.lionprotects.com

 

Gabriel Flores-  Regional Sales Manager, Western U.S. - SEKO Dosing Systems Corp.

gflores@sekousa.com

1103 Branagan Drive

Bristol, PA19007

Phone (866) 740-7623

www.sekousa>com

 

Scott Mackenzie- Business Development Manager-  STEDFAST USA Inc.

smackenzie@stedfast.com

Cell (602) 549-5817

Toll Free (888) 673-8841

6989 West Grovers Ave.

Glendale, AZ 85308

www.stedfast.com

 

Gabriel Flores- Chemical & Dosing Systems Consultant-  AFChemical

Gtfloresjr2@gmail.com

(209) 840-3860

1570 East F Street-  Suite A-156

Oakdale, CA95361

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com