SAFER Meeting Minutes

December 20, 2019

SAFER Board Attendees: President Quinn, Szczepanek, Past President
Gurrola, Seely, Social Media Liaison Rabe

Santa Fe Springs
Fire & Rescue Training Center

0935 Meeting
called to order – President Quinn welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, Thanks
to Santa Fe Springs Fire – Rescue Department for hosting the December Meeting
of SAFER use of the facility and hospitality.

President Quinn Introduced Fire Chief Hayward who welcomed SAFER and related his appreciation for the group. He led the flag salute and a moment of silence for those who gave the ultimate sacrifice. Chief Hayward thanked his staff members who provide the awesome hospitality today. He related the multiple missions (Fire, Rescue and Environmental Units) the Santa Fe Springs Fire & Rescue Department supports. He related recent retirements and promotions within the department and major developments in the city. B/C Sean Escontriaous – assigned to RTG , thanks to Casey Jones for coordination of the SAFER meeting. Related new radio purchases, possibly a new aerial ladder truck in the next few years. Citizens voted in a dedicated sales tax increase towards infrastructure improvements.

Committee Reports:

NFPA – Dick Weise absent today, texted 1877 is on hold till public comment
period ends.

CalOSHA – Jan 1 2020 – Reporting requirements; Capt. Robindeau LAFD:

· Retaining “permanent serious degree of disfigurment” injury as a
reporting requirement

· Replacing” loss of any body part loss”, replacing with amputation

· Report within 24 hours admission is removed, must notify within 8
hours of being notified of an injury leading to in-patient treatment
(except observation / testing only)

Vender Liaison – Gabe Sayegh –AllStar Fire Equipment Company: Happy Holidays and thanks to the fire service industry.

Apparatus – “Pumpers of the future may look like”

Fire Apparatus and Emergency
Equipment writers asked apparatus manufacturers what the they envision the
pumper of the future will look like and how it will perform:

1) Self-driving and remote controls

• Self-
driving may not work for fire apparatus due to navigating traffic, but remote
controls for pumping or maneuvers of ladders on trucks, similar to concrete
trucks.

2) Technology in Pumper Cabs

• Clean cabs, reduction of climbing activities on the vehicle, air bags, warnings of
lane departure and distance mitigation.

3) Smaller size pumpers

• Smaller apparatus to only carry what’s needed, more maneuverable, bodies being made in the short to medium range.

• Smaller pumpers will have shorter turning radius and lower hose beds

4) Smaller Pump panels

• Electronic
valves and electric gauges are making panels smaller and giving dept. more
storage space.

5) Clean Cabs

• Common request from Depts. Is the install of clean cabs, no standards yet on what makes a clean cab, customers dictate what they desire. Rosenbauer Company is working with University of Minnesota and agencies to define what the ultimate clean can
configuration might be.

• Air filters for cabs. It’s a combination HEPA and charcoal filter

6) Storage solutions

• Utilizing all available space for compartment.

• Reducing the size of the pumps to create more storage space

7) Safer access to the top

• Easier access to ladders. Moving them lower on the side of apparatus

• Air bags to the rear of apparatus to lower the apparatus for easier access

8) All electric pumpers

• Rosenbauer fist to design all electric pumper

• According to Sales Manager of Rosenbauer, “They are working on developing electric ladder truck

• Menlo Park in process of purchasing E-truck

• Was able to go on ride while they visited VCFD and was very impressed

(A.Petrillo,Fire Apparatus.com, Dec. 2019)

Safety and Training:

Technology – See Website, Facebook, twitter, linkedin

Treasurer - $xxxxxx in Savings, $xxxxxx in checking, new year so please pay
membership dues. (Actual financial data redacted for account security)

Program:
“Unmanned Aerial Systems in the Fire Service ”

Presented by
Battalion Chief Richard Fields – LAFD UAS Program Director

Los Angeles
Fire Department

(213) 978-3579 Office

richard.fields@lacity.org

Program PowerPoint shown at time of delivery

Chief Fields related his perspective on the development of the LAFD UAS program, its benefits to emergency operations.
He showed a LAFD video highlighting “drone” footage on and around various
emergency scenes: structure fires, wildland / interface fires, HazMat scenes as
well as cause / origin investigations. LAFD received the first COA to a region
(LA Co). LAX was the largest of regional airports (Burbank, Long Beach, Santa
Monica) that they were able to MOU’s with. In LAFD: “You are pilot and the
drone is an airplane” to provide the professionalism of the operators and the
future development of the program.

In the Wildland scenario they’ve developed numerous capabilities that increase incident safety as well as increased suppression efficiencies.

They worked with various “public” institutions, like the ACLU, to develop policy / procedures that addressed citizen concerns. He related his staff who has contributed much to the use of UAS in the agency.
A/C’s asked him “What problem are you trying to solve with this program?”:

Real-time information to the IC to
make the most accurate / efficient decisions while setting incident objectives.

Chief discussed the Coast Guard FIRS asset out of Los Alamitos Joint Powers Base; He related the time delay from the 20,000 foot view is LESS accurate / timely using the UAS for active incident management.

He discussed the UAS can map about 60 acres a minute. 4 hours they can develop a 3-D image of the fire accurately depicting hot spots and targets to protect.

He related the uses in “Damage Assessment” and “Cause / Origin” investigations.

They’re drones generally fly 200’ below the minimum elevation of other incident air assets although they try to “de-clutter” the airspace when other assets are in the area.

They’re now using the UAS in other “technical” incidents like USAR, HazMat and situations where they want to deploy select rescue devices (ropes / rescue lines, chemical detection) and other mapping needs.

Discussion on the mapping / estimation uses when combines with various mapping software.

Chief Fields related the amazing
increases in his career path related to technologies

FIRESCOPE: US Dept of the Interior committee (S-373 Field Observation Class) has looked at the LAFD’s Field Training Program as a pre-requisite for S-373. LAFD is working with “Drone Rescue Group” and other agencies to develop standards for UAS use in the urban environments. They are involved in developing standards / polies for the motion
picture / TV production industries.

Risk Management perspective:
Might capture a very important event with liability
issues·
How will you store the data developed?
The California Public Records Act (CPRA)

Related experiences within the Alameda Corridor below ground rails, and the effects of the electrical impulse emitted by railroad engines.

Chief related the AreoSafe UAS
detection system to determine if a drone is present in a specific area is
available.

UAS intercept / control / crash a drone device intruder is only done by military or a Homeland Security agency with security role. Once you take control of a UAS device you may be responsible for where it goes / what damage it may do – he related he is
avoiding taking action against an intruding UAS at this time.

DRONE ID:

All will have to emit an identifying signal tied to the owner / operator, similar to the identifier on aircraft.

Roundtable:

Tom Aoki – 5 alarm fire – Has ARCTIC air compressor systems of every size / any needs

Louie Garcia –– Rosenbauer Fire Apparatus (Electric Pumper) was been shown in several regional and local roll-outs.

Tracy Rabe – Merry Christmas! - Linegear Fire & Rescue Equipment – Has wildland gear including gloves, boots and Mystery Ranch product line.

Casey Scott – Represent several fire equipment company, has drones with FLIR systems

Jim Cleary – Plymovent systems, thanked customers

Corey Flacker LBFD

Sergio Val – LBFD Drone program manger

Jay Schafer – LBFD Boat Captain – Drone platform off the fireboat for maritime incidents, UAS program.

Tyler Cooper Engr with Torrance FD – Looking at apparatus maintenance issues related to increasing qa / qi.

El Segundo FD – looking to develop a drone program

Eric Anderson – El Segundo FD – Interested in an apparatus maintenance program

LACoFD – Is looking for information to develop a drone program

Craig Little - LACoFD – is looking for info on maintaining the LACoFD’s drone program

Gabe Sayegh – AllStar Fire Equipment – Has new SCOTT Airpacks meeting the 2018 Standard. They have a new “buddy breather” connection.

David Molinatti – Industrial Scientific – Related the monitoring equipment available to conduct area monitoring / detection

Ed Shabro – LN Curtis – Back in this area representing the full line of LN Curtis Co. products.

Jim Roth Storm-King Mountain Tech products – Has fire shelters for apparatus and
individuals.

Jake Sherman Hero Wipes – has Firefighter Decon and EMS cleansing products

Pete Brown – DFD – DFD will be moving back into two stations (61 & 63) then remodeling two more (62 & 64).

Rob Szczepanek – Ventura County FD – Thanks for the assistance in recent fires. Just opened a new station, has two new FireHawks coming in July, academy starting with 12 females. (Offered a review of the Apparatus report above)

Keith Gurrola – Fillmore Fire Dept. – Looking to build a new “Community / Fire Station” in a couple years, looking for design ideas. Working towards a “Clean Cab” strategy, Looking for scene lighting and rescue tools to meet some grant rq’s

Stuart Luvi – Independent Product Representative – Will consult and locate any / all equipment needs.

Matt Roland – Ventura County Fire

LAFD Safety Coordinator (works with CalOSHA etc)

SAFER email :
SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

Meeting adjourned: 1200