SAFER Meeting Minutes
April 21, 2017
SAFER Board Attendees: Pres Gurrola, Vice Pres Weise, Quinn, Seely, Wilkerson
Santa Monica Fire Department
Santa Monica Library
0950: Meeting called to order - President Gurrola, Fillmore Fire Chief, welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, Thanks to the City of Santa Monica for use of the facility and AllStar Fire Equipment for morning bagels and coffee.
SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.
Finance: No report at meeting, a detailed report was submitted to board via email from Past Pres Duran.
OSHA: ”Violence against first responders” reporting– Agencies must maintain a Log / Journal , (similar to a “300 Log”) beginning April 1st, 2017 of incidents involving: (1) Member on Member, (2)Violence on first responder from public, (3) Dog Bites. April 2018: All members must be trained. LAFD has started a log to begin implementation.
Acceptance of NFPA standards by CalOSHA is pending “cost analysis “review by legislature as it will place burden on local government agencies. (Un-funded Mandate)
NFPA: Dick Weise – SAFER rep to 1977, (1877 Document is a SCAM doc for wildland): Committee is looking at Dozer Operator gloves, FR boot laces, “vented helmets”. Dual compliant Station-Wildland pants are out to bid for LACoFD. All helmet liners/support elements must be easily removable for proper decontamination. IAFF is pushing a Cancer Prevention program. 1971 (Structure and Proximity) updates to include systems to protect from particulates through “Hood” elements and THL standard.
“Healthy In – Healthy Out” programs are being implemented throughout the fire service.
FIRESCOPE: Chief Reyes - LAFD: Discussed the “flagging tape” colors and their meanings and the efforts underway to standardize its uses. Smoke/inhalation issues are being looked at and the desire to NOT cover other standard developers. Recommends attending “Safety Officers Conference” (3-Days), receive updates from experts and agency representatives from CalFire, aviation ops, Incident Management – Leadership.
FDIC next week in Indianapolis. Document # 215A updated and on website.
Apparatus: No report. One attendee related they’d experienced some LDH (4”) delaminate.
Technology: No report
Venders: FDIC Next week in Indianapolis.
“Foresters and Fire Wardens”: Pilgrim Pines (Oak Glen) May 4 &5th, 2017
Program: Fire Service working at Tactical Law Enforcement Incidents
Presenter: B/C Don Reyes – LAFD – Homeland Security Division & FIRESCOPE
Reference FIRESCOPE ICS 701 Document, Revised June 23, 2015 or newer
History : (Columbine Incident was impetus – Immediate Action Tactics developed)
Pre Incident Considerations
Initial Actions Tactical Considerations
Working with Law/SWAT
The Bid One
What is a Tactical Law Enforcement Incident?
Active Shooter, Hostage Taker, Barricaded Suspect
Suspect with explosives
MACTAC / Combat Coordinated Attack
TEMS: Tactical Emergency Medical Support:
PPE and Equipment
Adapting other SOG’s
Other Agency needs (Public Schools, airport other “stake-holders”)
Public Information and Incident Messaging (Social Media)
Blue Force Tracking being developed for public safety
Confirm Incident Type
Co-locate with LAW OIC/IC
Establish Unified Command:
ID Hot/Warm/ Cold Zones
Request Additional Resources
Create Notification Area with Dispatch (to control access to incident area)
Rescue Group Supervisor
Med Group Supervisor
ID HOT/WARM/COLD zones
What Can we Accomplish?
Does each agency have same criteria?
Working with Law/SWAT:
The Officer in Charge
Medical Plan & CCP (Casualty Collection Point)
Discussion on ISIS publications and the JRIC info products being distributed to Law/Fire Agencies. Push Publications are developed for reasons, not just on a time-table.
( LAFD) Working withLAW/SWAT/TEMS:
Tactical Areas (Notification Areas)
Incident Facilities Locations
California Mutual Aid
Meeting recessed to Vender Time at 1125
Meeting reconvened at 1145 for roundtable
Dick Weise – Predicts active fire season, drills coming up. KME Quints coming soon. Replacing many “plastic interior parts” from rigs to reduce off gassing
Weisenburg – Ventura County Fire – Class of recruits going through, need medics, 5 Rosenbowers Type 1’s, 1 Quint ordered. Next Month BBQ at SAFER meeting. Two years till next retirement
Crystal – Fillmore / Ventura Federal FF’s – Hiring six
Scott Quinn – LAFD B/C – Castro Retired last week, slowing drill towers to two per year. Has had 4” LDH separating. LAFD had a large fire on the Vernon border in a food processing plant.
Had a kid making pipe bombs in a neighborhood. Was injured.
LAFD responded to Murrieta Georgia FF’s accident that was fatal. The guy had just toured the fire station that responded to the incident. LAFD provided “honor guard” to the coroner, then the funeral home and finally to the airport. Provided family support to the friends / family from Georgia.
Kirk Owen – Veridian PPE – Will be at FDIC next week introducing a new generation FF Glove.
Jack K Ventura Federal FF – Looking for Chief to
Don Reyes – LAFD –
Jeff Wilkerson May 10th, Camp Pendelton Dozer School May 1, 2017, CalFIRE. 1st Week in June – Fire School.
Steve Hoyle – ORCO (Retired) – Fire Museum – Related the loss of agency history, experience
Bill Ward – Pump recovery system – Saves water while allowing real world training opportunities.
Tracy Rabe - Fire Rescue Equipment – Rep’s footwear and workrite uniforms.
Rick Holman – AllStar Fire Equipment – Will be at FDIC. Scott bought by 3-M
Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment - :LaHabra Heights looking at Rosenbouer Type 1 and 3 appratus. Has a new glove to show at FDIC.
Tom Martin – Atwood-Prior , Inc. - Factory Rep’s for Pelican, others. Has Sun Block, Insect repellant, mounting brackets. Showed a new foam cartridge nozzle.
Jim Cleary – Plymovent – ORCO 61 burned, 61 on a call when they responded to their station for a reported structure fire. Contract just signed to have it rebuilt.
Eric Higgins – BestWay Laundry- Related he’d have a “Scanning Program” to track PPE laundering for 1851 compliance.
John Price – LACoFD (Retired) – MES PPE Expert
Rob Span Ventura County Fire –
Frank QualTel – Showed the wireless headset / transmitter to interface with rig radio and intercom.
Lazaro Martinez – MES – PPE, equipment for Law and Fire Services. Has InfraRed cameras and Scope for USA
Davis A – Industrial Scientific – Related the company and the industry they service. Gas detection equipment and chemical monitoring.
Keith Gurrola – Fillmore FD – Will be hiring FF’s after current group is fully integrated. Annual Golf tournament will be June 3rd, 2017.
Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:
Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)
Agency / Co NAME PHONE # EMAIL (s)
Downey Fire (Retired) Chuck Seely (949) 492-7993 email@example.com
c alifornia fire museum steve hoyle 9494965688 firstname.lastname@example.org
PLYMOVENT/AIR EX JIM CLEAERY 909-720-7064
Camp Pendleton Fire ret. Jeff Wilkerson949-830-087 email@example.com
Quala-Tel Communications Frank Uram 858 577-2900 firstname.lastname@example.org
Los Angeles Fire Dept Scott Quinn213-434-1380 email@example.com
Los Angeles County Fire Dick Weise 951-807-1914
Municipal Emergency ServicesLaz Martinez firstname.lastname@example.org
Atwood-Prior/Pelican Products Tom Martin 909-264-4875
Louie GarciaLouie Garcia213-272-5680 email@example.com
Industrial ScientificDavid Molinatti714-403-1915 firstname.lastname@example.org
Torrance Fire Dept. Tim McAtee 310-344-1490
Santa Barbara County Fire Dept. Michael Klusyk 805-896-6337
Ventura City Fire DeptLuis Manzano 805-256-8533
Veridian Fire Protective GearKirk Owen 712-260-3547 email@example.com
Fillmore Fire Department Crystal Rhoden 805-701-5891
Los Angeles Fire DepartmentDon Reyes 213359-1054 firstname.lastname@example.org
Fillmore Fire Department Keith Gurrola 8055580932 email@example.com
Bestway Laundry Solutions Eric higgins 18005426166
Federal Fire Ventura County Jack Koltaj 805 989-2373 firstname.lastname@example.org
LineGear Fire & Rescue Equip Tracy Rabe 949-709-8808
Pump Pod USA Bil Ward 949-246-6999 email@example.com
MES John Price 562-212-6803 firstname.lastname@example.org
Allstar Fire Equip. Rick Homan email@example.com
Los Angeles Fire Dept Scott Quinn213-434-1380