SAFER Meeting Minutes
April 20, 2018
SAFER Board Attendees: President Quinn, Past President Gurrola, Seely, VP Weise, Wilkerson, Szczepanek , Communications / Social Media Liaison Rabe
San Miguel Fire Consolidated Fire Protection District Sta 15 – Admin Headquarters
2850 Via Orange Way, Spring Valley, CA 91978
1000 Meeting called to order – President Quinn opened the meeting and related the meeting agenda and introduced Fire Chief Brainard who welcomed the attendees and related he recently learned 61% of FF deaths are from Cancer and encouraged the fire service to improve that number. Chief Marugg who led the pledge of allegiance and moment of silence then introduced David Picone the SDFD – Health and Safety Officer.
Thanks to San Miguel Fire for the morning hospitality and MES / Fire Etc for lunch.
NFPA – Dick Weise – Updated the meeting attendees on the status of the NFPA 1877 standard development. This proposed “Wildland SCAM” document will include a “performance” standard for fire shelters. How clean is clean? Single Layer concept is a current”1977” topic and is often adopted by agencies. New wildland gear is much lighter, more comfortable but offer superior protection. Dick related the issue of cross-contamination and the methods used to limit / eliminate risks to crews and the public.
Public input is currently available on-line for 1877 standard.
CalOSHA – No committee report available.
Apparatus – Rob – Related he is now monitoring the Fire Mechanics forum.
Safety and Training- No specific committee report.
Technology – See Website, Facebook, twitter, linkedin
Treasurer – Given by B/C Guinn for Tony Duran – Reminder to please pay your annual dues!
Communications – Tracy / Tony:
Vendor Liaison – Gabe for Joe, FDIC this week. FH World will be in LA next year.
*FDIC is at the end of April 27, 28 & 29 in Indianapolis.
Program: General Decon and Best Practices to Keep Gear and Crews Clean
Chief Marugg – Dave Picone SDFD H&S Officer & FF Truver
Video showing “contamination” (shaving cream) and the numerous routes common PPE contamination can take into the workplace. (from SFFD). The contrast was shown between “no decon” and “proper decontamination”.
Chief Marugg related the agencies period as a CalFire affiliate and explained the evolution of new procedures / sog’s since reformation as an independent consolidated agency. Related recent injuries / illnesses experienced by crews at various incidents.
Described their migration to new PPE ensembles under wildland scenarios and related the various techniques and methods being employed to protect crews from known carcinogens and toxics.
Chief Marugg introduced San Diego Fire & Rescue Health and Safety Officer, Dave Picone, who related the new techniques /methods being employed by SDFD in concert with their Relief Association. (CAP Program)
Two sets of PPE, two sets of hoods and B/C carries a cache of hoods for replacement as required.
Extractors being installed
Wipes for “in-field decontamination”- on rigs, in stations, with decon units.
Chief Dave Picone introduced FF Truver who explained the components of their new H & S procedures. (FF Truver is the secretary of the Relief Association)
Posters from the SDFD workplace(s) were distributed to attendees showing the “Three C’s” – Clean Air - Clean Body –Clean Gear”:
SCBA used Throughout Overhaul
100% Exhaust Extractor use
Mindful of exhaust flow
Strip Down and Bag Turnouts
Break Turnouts apart & wash
Run and empty load after PP washing
Rotate crews during overhaul
Consider remaining assigned to incident after released for personal decontamination as needed
Prolonged incident , most contaminated back to quarters for personal decontamination
After exiting a fire environment they remove their helmet and hood, wipe down face and neck with cleansing wipes to reduce the amount of carcinogens in contact with the vulnerable skin surface(s). FF Cancer in the lymph nodes is a major illness in our population. The goal is to remove as much of the “heavy metals” from the skin. (Learned from Military experience handling munitions)
The typical equipment provided to every unit was demonstrated:
Citro-Squeeze spray bottle
Bags to capture contaminated PPE
Spare Hoods (in bag)
Discussions are ongoing for adopting specific methods into the Wildland scenario – Type 3 units. Crews at stations with Type 3 units are issued two sets of Wildland jackets, one of pants.
BC Quinn explained the long term effort is to reduced risks incrementally, big issues first then continue solve the smaller issues while moving towards “best practices” in all areas.
SDFD is reviewing data from previous years:
Boots (rubber vrs leather)
IAFC Safety Stand-down Week of 6/17/2018
1045 Meeting to venders in apparatus bay
1120 Round Table:
Scott Quinn- Bat Chief LAFD: (4 yrs risk mgmt, litigation etc.) Feel free to call if he can help with any agencies H&S program. Related recent accidents at LAFD (1) Dozer roll-over, (2) structure fire with a propane tank BLEVE.
Jeff Wilkerson – Camp Pendleton Fire – Related personal experiences with Ca in his fire “family”. Thanked SG and complimented SDFD for its wellness efforts.
Miamonte – Drone manufacture, can haul hose, other logistical items to crews via UAV’s.
Rameriz – Filmore Fire PIO – nothing to add.
Rob Szczepanek - Ventura County Fire – Conducting a “Whole Dept.” review of Thomas Fire “lessons learned”.
Dick Weise - LACoFD – Relate AB2146 is being pushed through legislature – requires NFPA standard(s) adoption. LACoFD is going to morning pride PPE. LACoFD is expecting lots of turnover in the next few years. Will be adding Station 100 in one of the beach cities later this year.
Brian Bulger – Retired Ventura Co.
Kieth Gurrola – Fillmore Fire – June 30 is their golf tournament, Looking for used TIC’s and Gas Monitors. Needs some new “used” Type 6 engines.
Bill Ward – Pump Pod USA – Sacramento will be delivering unit(s) , 15 quotes out, several agencies are committed to purchase. Is demonstrating their units are numerous venues.
Jim – Viejas reservation – Hiring medics.
National city FD – Took over PPE officer 9 months ago and is learning a lot from other local agencies. Is seeing changes in old H&S culture towards a more healthy
Mark Beverage – National City- Discussed the changes being made in favor of better H&S. Complimented his PPE Captain on his contributions. Related his superiors are learning the benefits
Dave Picone – SDFD – Related they are developing a LOOD procedure / policies and are looking for other agencies programs. B/C Quinn related LAFD’s experiences with “LOOD Investigations”and the importance of assistance of other agencies with expertise in specific areas.
Rich Smith – Lakeside FD – Discussed compatibility of various SCBA’s “Buddy Breather” fittings. Rich related the issue in light of other department’s equipment not being connectable. Cancer on forehead and in the groin area are the most common in the firefighter demographic. .
Brent Waddy – Lakeside Fire – Works in PPE are with Rich.
Chris – Lakeside FD – Has taken over PPE program from a retiring Captain several years ago. Lakeside is trying to stay on track with H&S “best practice’s in the fire service. Related the SDFD has been a big benefit to the area in this area.
Jordan Evans – Citro-Squeeze- Related they are now on Facebook, Twitter etc. network the H&S messages. Recommended a “decon kit” shown in the vender area.
Jim Evans – Citro Squeeze – Jim related the company’s growth in the field of H&S over the last 25 years. Added clean gear is for more than just Cancer, but many other illnesses and diseases.
Paul Laker – VF Workwear – Purchased Workrite Uniforms. Kelly Whitt will still be with the company.
Eric Higgins – Uni-Mac Extractor Sales – Complimented SG CFPD – Related new capabilities and features available to comply with 1851
Steve - Scott Representative for Southern California. NFPA is working to standardize the RIC / Buddy Breathing connection. Complimented SDFD on their Ca / Health Program. Added the new Scott air pack has a fully removable waist belt and harness ensemble for washing in an extractor.
Gabe – AllStar Fire Equipment – PPE August – All PPE must meet 2018 standard, exception – may ship product within its 10 year like span.
Bill Black – Safety Components – Manufacture of Nomex for belt / harness ensemble for SCOTT SCBA’s. Introduced a new 5 ½ oz fabric (sigma) for wildland gear (1977 standard) that is very comfortable and Brian – San Miguel Fire -durable.
Brian - San Miguel fire – Nothing to add.
Bill - MES – Represents Scott and Morning Pride PPE
Chase Powell – SoCal PPE – Appreciates the networking
Scott - Fire Etc – Retired CalFire , Started SoCal PPE after a Cancer diagnosis and subsequent retirement. Has Decon Kits available for gross decon on rigs. The “Kit” Contains tools and cleaning solutions for decontamination for around $100 to produce your own.
Chief Marugg – Thanked the venders for contributions to the SAFER group.
Ventura Co FD – Regional Training Center – Thomas Fire, Oil patch fire. May 18th .
LAFD – Frank Hotchkin Memorial Training Center - UAV Program – June 15th
SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.
Meeting adjourned: 1200
SAFER April 20, 2018
San Miguel Consolidated Fire Protection District
Agency / Co NAME PHONE # EMAIL (s)
Downey Fire (Retired) Chuck Seely (949) 492-7993 email@example.com
Quala-Tel Frank Uram 8585772900 firstname.lastname@example.org
Bestway Laundry Solutions Eric Higgins 1-800-542-6166 email@example.com
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AllStar Fire Equip. Gabe Sayegh 6262550431 email@example.com
Mark Sheldone 760-505-3473 firstname.lastname@example.org
LineGear Fire & Resque Equipment Tracy Rabe 949-230-5610 email@example.com
National City FD Matthew Lucas 619-599-3038 firstname.lastname@example.org
LACoFD Dick Weise 951-807-1914 RWEISELACOFD@YAHOO.COM
San Miguel Fire & Rescue Brian Bayne 619-654-3746 email@example.com
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Lakeside Fire Prot Dist Richard Smith 6193902350 email@example.com
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Naitonal City Fire Dept Mark Beveridge 6193364555 email@example.com
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Viejas Fire Dept JimBingham 619-743-1863 email@example.com
PumpPodUSA Bill Ward 949-246-6999 firstname.lastname@example.org
CitroSqueeze Jordan Evans 619-607-5305 email@example.com