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SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - April 15, 2022 - Costa Mesa FD

April 15, 2022 SAFER Meeting

Costa Mesa Fire Department

Fire Station 4 - 2300 Placentia Ave Costa Mesa , CA 92627

Board Members Present: President Scott Quinn, Vender Liaison Sposato, Scott Hudson, Chuck Seely, Jeff Wilkerson, et al.

In House Firefighter Early Symptom Intervention Program (Update)

Presented by Captain Hammond Los Angeles Fire Department

0940    Meeting Called to order by President Quinn; related the attendance

Welcome by Batt/ Chief Vasin on behalf of Fire Chief Dan Stefano ,

Thanks to Velocity Fire Equipment (Louie Garcia) for refreshments 

Flag Salute led by

Reports:

Vender report:

Joe Sposato – April 27-29 FDIC is on – great show.

Lots of shortages (NOMEX raised price  3 times in last year)

Turnouts $2400 up to $3400 / set.

Manufactures are working to control costs but materials (Aluminum , steel, fabric, plastics) continue to challenge the manufacturing / production side.

Fire Engine costs are virtually unknown until delivery – just too many changes

CalOSHA – Scott Hudson – Discussed the “Wildfire Smoke Standard” and how it affects FF crews.         N-95 masks may need to be “fit tested’ or some other method to insure usefulness. Heat illness standard MUST be included IIPP. Jim - New standard for AB2146: April 21st meeting with CalOSHA to codify the bill. Bill will become law July 1, 2022. Phase-in standard over 5-7 years, some actions are sooner. Standard sets metrics for overhaul.

COVID Prevention Plan for (1) Sworn) (2) Support positions should be developed and communicated to all personnel.

Apparatus : Nothing

In House Firefighter Early Symptom Intervention Program (Update)

Presented by Captain Hammond Los Angeles Fire Department

 

Injury Prevention Program

Los Angeles Mayor’s office got funding for the program to reduce the direct costs of injuries.  Audit revealed medical costs to the city will continue to rise. Once an injured employee enters the “Workers Comp” world – the city has no controls over costs – the medical community sets all the metrics, costs, path to return to duty. LAFD uses “Athletic Trainers” (Shawn) in this program to assess and recommend exercise / physical rehab measures to members having physical performance issues.

INSERT PowerPoint Program Here****************************************

NATA Public Safety Society

Mission:

1.     Injury Prevention

2.     Early Symptom Intervention

3.     Work Hardening

FMS Testing; Functional Movement Screen

FMS Measures members propensity to get hurt / injured

Prescribes movements to strengthen / flexibility to reduce likely hood of future injury

“Firefighters that are more fit are less likely to be injured

LAFD’s IPU Educational Content: Original Injury Prevention Videos

Functional Movement Screen Corrective excursive series

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Fixing minor acute injuries and chronic job-related pain before entering the workers comp scenario.

“Making Firefighters FIT FOR DUTY Post injury recovery”

May be a benefit for both “on-Duty” as well as “Off-Duty” injuries

IPU Metrics through March 2022:

1.     590 Injury Evaluations

2.     367 Follow-up Treatments

3.     27 Tele-Health Appointments

4.     Total Injury Related Visits 984

5.     Station Visit 85

6.     Drill Tower Visit’s 38

7.     Home Exercise Programs Distributed

Eliminate a claim vs reduce cost of claims

Rendered Injury Evaluation, Rehab, and treatment Costs $78,480

AIFF WEFIT Program;

1.     Peer Fitness Trainer Program

2.     Hire an ATC

3.     Revamped approach to medical evaluation / intervention and rehab service.

Questions:

Where is funding coming from? B/C Quinn related the current funding is budgeted, but most need a grant program to demonstrate need / effectiveness.

How long is the MS Test?

Hammond related about 10 min.

IAre videos developed by LAFD available?

They are available on UTUBE page. LAFD Wellness

Roundtable

Next meeting in Ventura County Date, location and topic TBA

LAFD has New Chief, a new leader , 3 classes a year 20 week reduced to 12 weeks, new electric fire engine will be on the floor shortly, losing 83 gold positions.

Jack Kolti - Ventura Fed fire

Bill Ward Pump POD-USA – Co having a pretty good year, related the distribution of new units throughout SoCal. Related several purchases are being funded through water agencies with an eye to save water during drought.

LN Curtis – Respiratory Protection rep of MSA SCBA’s

Scott Hudson Hemet FD Retired – Related new FC in Hemet

Steve Hanks – SCOTT rep in SoCal discussed the new SCOTT SCBA products including communications interface vis Bluetooth.

Kyle Kringle – Scott Safety Regional 14 States Coordinator. First time at SAFER.

Jeremiah Herterich - Fire Dex, Bauer Compressors product representative.

Jeremy HMS – Thanks Costa Mesa Fire for hosting

Bret Falkner Anaheim Fire =

Chief Gurrola – Fillmore Fire – Budget looks good for future; (Stations Apparatus Etc.)

Louie Garcia – Velocity Fire Equipment (VTCFire.com) Discussed Rosenbauer electric engine – orders are about 2 years out. Will be at FDIC.

Robert Ashby - Ventura County Fire – New FC, new DC. Has been using live scan for staff.

Joe Sposado – AllStar Fire Equipment – New PPE elements are available and on display in engine room. SCOTT will be renewing CalFIRE contract for 5 tears. Just took the FLIR product line for TIC’s Phoenix Equipment locally.

Steve Harris – Plymovent Systems Regional Manager -Maintenance and service items are available, new install schedules are available – post-pandemic.  

.AllStar-  Fire Equipment sales rep related select equipment / PPE / SCBA available.

Christina AllStar Fire Equipment – Magnetic closure on PPE

S Haynes Huntington Beach FD – Thanked CM for Hosting and for the SAFER meeting, Are working to hire AO’s as well as lifeguards after spending lots of training

Jim Vasin CM Fire Dept – Thanked LAFD for the program, related they have been with the Santa Ana College program, thanks to venders for their efforts during the pandemic

Steve - Costa Mesa Fire Dept – Thanked SAFER for meeting, CM will be building a new training tower over the next two years.

Tracy Rabe – Line-Gear Equipment – Thanks OC agencies for attending. Pumping up equipment deliveries but supply chain / deliveries continue to be challenging.

Bob Lavato –Orange City Fire Department.

Sammy Cassio – Ret Phil Fire – Interested in CANCER prevention.  Related 10 of 13 original crew he hired on with have passed from CA. Works with Chief Fineries (OCFA) Has a hose line cleaning equipment (Clean Get-Away) that washes contamination from fire hose prior to re-loading.

Jimmy Ceinero – Fillmore FD

Castro - Fillmore Fire –

Chris Coates – CM Fire Thanked

Jeff Wilkerson – Camp Pendleton Retired – Relate the importance of the “next thirty years look like”

Jim Evans - Safety Squeeze - Related the importance of the health measures that have implemented since NFPA 1851 Standard. New studies reveal “Parkinson’s” disease is the next health issue to be identified as problematic as FF’f live longer into retirement.  

Jordan Evans – CitroSqueeze  - Will be assisting Tracy with SM pics.

Emily Stumps – Advanced PPE’s – Locations in Ventura and Hawaii. Working to clean / repair / replacement PPE (ISP)

TOM Harvick – H3 Sales and Marketing representing “Working Athlete” – A hydration product line, lots of vitamins, minerals in support of maintaining Hydration. Spoke against RockStar – Monster Etc, calls them GARBAGE.

Bill Tilspon   Athletic Trainer from Northern region.

Shawn – LAFD Athletic Trainer  in thewellness program.

Lou Mansano – Ventura City – Taking delivery of a new Tractor Trailer Aerial , graduation a class of recruits through combo tower with Ventura County.

Eric Higgins – Bestway Laundry Solutions – Sales / Service of UniMac Extractor systems.

11:10   Meeting Adjourned to Vender Networking in Engine Room

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - December 2017

SAFER Meeting Minutes

December 15, 2017

SAFER Board Attendees:  Past President Durran , VP Quinn,  Wilkerson,  Seely

Santa Fe Springs Fire & Rescue Training Center

0935    Meeting called to order – Past President Duran welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, Thanks to Santa Fe Springs Fire – Rescue Department for hosting the December Meeting of SAFER use of the facility and hospitality and lunch.  

Past President Duran Introduced newly appointed Fire Chief Hayward who welcomed SAFER and related his appreciation for the group. He led the flag salute and recognized the FF LOD yesterday at the Thomas Fire. Chief Hayward thanked his staff members who provide the awesome hospitality today. He related the multiple missions (Fire, Rescue and Environmental Units) the Santa Fe Springs Fire & Rescue Department supports. He related the numerous charities and benefit programs they support. He related recent retirements and promotions within the department and major developments in the city.    

Tony related the recent improvements to the website.

January 4th, SAFER Board Meeting @ AllStar Fire Equipment.

Committee Reports:

NFPA – Dick Weise absent today, is at an NFPA  

CalOSHA

Vender Liaison – Firehouse world first week in March in San Diego (Last time in San Diego)

Apparatus

Safety and Training:

Technology – See Website, Facebook, twitter, linkedin

Treasurer - $468.00 in Savings, $2,000.00 in checking, new year so please pay membership dues.

Program: “The Fentanyl Crisis and the First Responders ”

SAFER VP Scott Quinn LAFD B/C introduced Capt. Brian dejong and Capt. Bob Dunivin  with the Los Angeles JHAT, a program under Homeland security.

Managing a Hazardous Materials / Terrorist Incident:

Determine (as you can) if this is a Terrorist Incident or not.

Metering equipment is extremely important

Rapid Assessment - Rapid extraction” – Rapidly assess to determine the scope of the incident, establish warm – cold zones, extract the victims ASAP

5 Steps for HazMat:

  1. Safety Situational Awareness

  2. ID The incident, problem, leak/product – Meters and other technical equipment

  3. Notify (Scene Size-up) HazMat Teams, Civil Support Teams, Law, FBI etc.

  4. Isolate and Deny Entry

  5. Victims – Rapid Assessment and Extraction

RAT – Rapid Assessment Teams – Two guys who enters the area to evaluate and structure an emergency strategy.

CSTI – Teaches the acronym: SIN (Safety Isolate Notify)

Who is the lead agency if there is a criminal nexus?

FBI has a “Twelve step for sampling” procedures.

Scott related the experience at LAX  has had with dangerous drugs being shipped through the airport. The LAFD had 10-12 calls a day for “white powder” calls after 911.

Who is responsible if there is an imminent threat to public safety? If several agencies have a role in the incident management – establish a Unified Command to insure each agencies incident objectives are met in the IAP. * Only Fire and Public Health Agencies have objectives which support the incident victims.

The speaker related the differences between “Law” and “Fire/EMS” Incident Objectives and how the differences impact tactical operations.

*Potential HazMat exposures should be checked by a HazMat Specialist (or someone with HazMat Authority) BEFORE rushing them off to an ER.

Fentanyl: Video from DEA was shown relating two agents experience in which they were accidently exposed to fentanyl found in a bag during a routine investigation.

 

Produced mostly in Mexico and China, Is shipped by all methods into the US for sale on the street.

40-50X stronger than street heroin – very small amounts can kill, is a transdermal drug (will absorb through skin) CarFentanyl (an animal tranquilizer) is 10,000 stronger than heroin. Drug dealers will “cut” a drug by adding fentanyl to increase his inventory – increase his profit.

2-3 mg can produce respiratory arrest, narcan Rx can be overwhelmed by doses used by users. May need additional treatments of Narcan after initial Rx.

Meters:

JUNO – detects Fentanyl

FTIR -

Gemini –

High Pressure Gas Spectrometer – Newest ($65,00) unit that has a huge detection library

* Fire Extinguisher Powder is about the same micron size (3-5 mc) as fentanyl and can be used as a good demonstration substitute.

Grey Death : Fentanyl is blended with heroin and another systemic opioid like U-4700  to produce a grey colored drug.

Best way to develop good field procedures is to train, drill and coordinate with the myriad of agencies with responsibilities in HazMat/Terrorist incidents.

Often mixed with an opioid

*Victims – Fire/EMS has the lead, no victim – Law has the lead

Fentanyl is extremely toxic if exposed

Presenter: JHAT – Joint Hazard Assessment Team

CDC wanted everybody in level A PPE on these incidents. They tried to use FF PPE

 

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - February 2016

 

SAFER Meeting Minutes

February 19, 2016

SAFER Board Attendees:   President Fortman, Past President’s Duran and Dolan, Seely, Quinn, , Alvarado

Long Beach Fire Department

  Headquarters  

0930    Meeting called to order –  President Fortman Introduced B/C Paul Alvarado who welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military. Thanks to LBFD for use of the facility and hospitality.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

 

  • Program: Annual Apparatus / Equipment Testing

LBFD Engineers Meiers and Shrout

B/C Alvarado introduced the presenters and gave a brief history of the agencies equipment testing program. The department developed a program to standardize all testing across the department, in nine days. Testing covers hose, ladders (including replacement of required labels), calibration of foam-pro systems, radios (reprogram TMAC), pumps, gauges, nozzles etc., all testing meets NFPA Standards. SCBA’s and all spare air bottles (using an outside contractor) to check for hydrostatic test dates. All outdated bottles are routinely “drilled” to remove them from any possibility of re-use. Anti-corrosion (Zinc Anodes) grates are changed and pumps / tanks are drained and flushed. Nozzles are checked and lubricated per manufacturers specifications. 32 Pumpers in LBFD fleet, 7 Truck Co’s.

*PowerPoint Presentation, Check Sheets and Test parameters available from presenters upon request.

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  • Business Meeting:

Dues:

SAFER is collecting annual dues to replenish our funds to support the Safety Mission. Go to SAFER.org online to sign up and pay dues. (Venders $100/Year)

Next Month: 18th of March North Las Vega : Cosmo Hotel Fire will be the presentation.

March 8th, 2016  at LBFD HQ – “Body Armor Prersentation”, Check website special presentation.

VP Wiese via text message: NFPA Rep: (Sick today), 1977 new 2016 is out with new requirements. SCAM is evolving.

 

  • Roundtable:

Jim Dolan LAFD Retired – Thanks to all attending.

Keith Gurrola - Santa Paula Fire – Santa Paula looking for proposals to provide fire protection services, possibly Ventura County.

Tony Duran; Past President, Interim Treasure- Has moved all accounts and mailing info.

Louie Garcia - Western States fire equipment – Related several products Western States is representing.

Michael Weisenberg– Ventura County - Camarillo Station – May 2oth SAFER – Full day symposium on UAV’s.

Robert Szczepanek- Ventura County; American LaFrance went out of business, will be going to Rosenbouer as their agency apparatus supplier.

Scott Quinn Capt II – LAFD : Drill tower class graduating, will have more classes starting. Asking to maintain a dialogue with CalOSHA on Heat Illness Prevention program. Has an accident investigation going after a fall from a training prop during construction.

Al Brewer LACoFD - Doing recruitment, 56 guys / class to fill some vacancies. Switching to new structure glove -“Dragon-Fire gloves”. AB 2146 advisory committee is looking to bring Cal law into NFPA 1851 Standard – Wearing SCBA during overhaul is one major issue.

Frank Orem - Qual-te l- introduced drone expert / business partner. Explained possible uses of this technology for fire / rescue scenarios.

Terry Parisher CEO – Straight up Imaging -  UAV’s- Explained the utility of his UAV product that will benefit the fire service and others. Various capabilities were given, IR, Chemical sensors, long hover time (20 Minutes+), extensive and other optimized technology. Working with FAA to develop working policy for the use of UAV’s.

Eric Maglio – Straight up Imaging Chief Engineer, builds products to meet user needs.

Rajiv Khatri – Straight Up Imaging Chief Architect: builds products to meet user needs.

Bren Cohee - Christion Bros Mechanical - Diesel Exhaust system builder from San Diego County region. First SAFER meeting.

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety: AB 2146 is proposed law being written for California that will mandate SCBA’s, PPE standards that meet NFPA 1851. State must make the implementation of the law coincide with funding (not a un-funded mandate). Cleaning and inspection will likely be the first to be implemented as it has low or no costs.

Eric Jasoer – BestWay Laundry – Related they provide sales and service of commercial laundry equipment used in maintenance of firefighting ensembles.

Steve Cooley – Cobra Litters:  Discussed the innovative new litter form Cobra Litters that has unique rolling characteristics for use over rough surfaces. Steve related the quality of the device and iuts construction.

Mark Sheldon – Oceanside FD Retired – Days-Off Products: Introduced his product representation: TIC’s, Tools etc..

Rick Griggs – CalFire Riverside: Related his agencies involvement in providing Fire / Life Safety during the president’s visit and the Asian Pacific Summit. Protests, protective service issues. Mass Causality Mode, Response to Public Unrest Mode were among the unusual response strategies were employed.

 

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment: Distributor of Lion PPE , Repairs fire hose for LBFD.

 

Bill Ward – Liqui-Pod: Has a prop that allows real flow water for training and pump testing. Is intended to reduce water waste and still provide realistic fireground operational training / pump testing. Various uses were related including “Drafting” pump operations. Live demonstrations were available in the parking lot utilizing LBFD apparatus.

 

Tyson Raner – Construction Innovations / FireWatch Digital Communications: Product is utilized to reduce overhaul injuries / toxic exposures to suppression crews by using fire detection at scene to do the “fire watching”. System “reports” to agency alarm center should a re-kindle be detected.

 

John Cardenas – LAFD – Is new Safety Officer.

 

Kelly Whitt – WorkRite Uniforms: Now stocking the new technical pant that meets single layer standards for station and wildland. Has several colors available.

 

Russ Snyder – OCFA – Completing current academy, mostly from other agencies. New class is at week 4.

 

LN Curtis Fire Equipment: Related May 4th-5thwill be the Fire Wardens Retreat.

 

Tom Langer – New “Crew Boss” single layer pant, new wildland boot.

 

Tracy Rabe -  Line Gear Fire & Rescue Equipment : Provides a full line of PPE products.

 

Jim Clearly – Plymovent: Has over 1000 stations using their system. No Las Vegas meeting is same date as March Madness weekend so make your reservations early.

 

 

  • 1130 Moved to outside prop to observe the pump test prop.

 

 

  • 1200 Meeting Adjourned

  • Next Month North Las Vegas FD. Program: “The Cosmopolitan Hotel Fire”.

     

 

 

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Michael Schlags – Cobra Rescue Litters

mschlags@cobra litters.com

P.O. Box 1981

Buelton[CS1] , CA 93427-1981

(805) 896-7993

 

Kelly Whitt – Regional Account Executive – Workrite Uniforms

(909) 289-5775 Cell

(562) 252-0155 Fax

kwhitt@workrite.com

www.workrite.com

1701 N. Lombard Street, Suite 200

Oxnard, CA 93030

 

 

 

Walt Dorn – Liqui-Pod

walt@liqui-pod.com

www.liqui-pod.com

(562) 244-2205 cell

(844)766-5763 ext 104

 

Bill Ward – Luqui-Pod

billward@cox.net

 

 

 

TJ Jasper - Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

www.bestwayls.com

 

Tyson Raner – Systems Consultant –  Construction Innovations – Fire Watch Digital Communications

(855) 725-9555

(916) 502-3414

5716 Folsom Blvd Suite 155

Sacramento, CA95819

Tyson.raner@constructioninnovations.com

Self-Contained , Portable Fire Alarm System

 

Ford Davies – B&D Safety Systems Inc. (Business Development)

(916) 765-8648 Cell/text

(800) 983-3518 Central Station

fdavies@bdsafetysystems.com

www.bdsafetysystems.com

Associates with: SecureWatch and FireWatch electronic monitoring units

 

Frank Uram- President-  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

 

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA

 

Jay Terry   Terry’s Canvas

terryscanvas@aol.com

2925 Palomino Court

Ontario, CA 91761

Phone (909) 947-7998

www.terrysfireequipment.com

 

 

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety

jime@solutionssafety.com

 

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment

lazarom@allstarfire.com

(626) 255-0433 Cell

 

Tracy Rabe – LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment

(800) 466-7574

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

tracy@LineGear.com

 

Tom Ramstead – LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment

(800) 466-7574

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

Tom@LineGear.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co                                     NAME                       PHONE #                              EMAIL (s)    

Downey Fire (Retired)                Chuck Seely             (562) 824-3225                  firebiz@att.net    

LACFD (retired) MES                    John Price                562-212-6803                jprice@mesfire.com           

Straight Up Imaging             Terry Parisher     (912) 667-8990    terry@straightupimaging.com           

Qual-Tel                                           Frank Uram             800-442-1504             furam@qualatel.com

Cobra Litters                                   Steve Cooley          805-377-5348                    coolnco@aol.com

Bestwqy Laundry Solutions       Eric Jasoer               (800)562-6166       ejasper@bestwayls.com           

Cobra Litters                          Michael Schlags        808-896-7993                   mschlags@cobralitter.com      

Cobra Litters                    Breanna Bartolucci         805-245-1535                    bschlags@cobralitter.com       

Oceanside FD(retired)/Days Off Consultants         Mark Sheldone      760-505-3473            msheldone@sbcglobal.net      

Western States Fire Equipment      Louie Garcia    213-272-5680        lgarcia@vvgtruck.com   

Chistian Brothers Mechanical ServicesGavin Fenske714-515-0083                gavin@cbhvac.com         

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment    Tom Ramstead   949-709-8808               sales@linegear.com           

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equipment    Tracy Rabe         949-709-8808tracy@linegear.com     

LN Curtis and Sons            Ed Shabro     76-250-1180           eshabro@lncurtis.com  

LACoFD                     Tony Duran            626-590-2991        Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com    

LAFD                        Ells Fortman            661-645-1810               ellsworth.fortman@lacity.org     

LAFDRetired         Jim Dolan                 562-400-1298                                jsdolan123@aol.com      

SC Products             Jim Evans                 770-634-0848                    jime@solutionssafety.com      

OCFA                         Russ Snider             714-308-4338                    russsnider@ocfa.org      

FireWatch                Ford Davies             916-765-8648                    fdavies54@gmail.com   

Christian Brothers Mechanical               Bren Cohee          951-703-8985        bren@cbhvac.com           

Liqui-Pod                  Bill Ward                  949-246-6999                    billward@cox.net

Ventura County Fire Dept  Michael Weisenberg 805-990-4326

michael.weisenberg@ventura.org    

Los Angeles Fire Dept     Scott Quinn             213-434-1380        scott.quinn@lacity.org  

Allstar Fire Equipment Inc.        Lazaro Martinez    626-255-0433        lazarom@allstarfire.com           

LACoFD                     Alvin Brewer          213-700-4184        alvin.brewer@fire.lacounty.gov        

LAFD                        John Cardenas        661-917-7019        john.cardenas@lacity.org         

VCFD                Robert Szczepanek       805-914-4021        Robert.Szczepanek@ventura.org      

Santa Paula Fire     Keith Gurrola          805-377-1491        kgurrola@spcity.org       

 

 

 

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SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - January 2016

SAFER Meeting Minutes

January 15, 2016

SAFER Board Attendees:   VP Wiese, Seely, Quinn, Sposato, Past President’s Gurrola and Dolan

Hosted by: Los Angeles County Fire Department

  Fire Camp 2

1000    Meeting called to order – Past President Gurrola Introduced B/C Tom Sullivan who welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military. Keith reviewed the purpose of SAFER and its committee structure. The planned program from Chief Brunacini (Blue Card Program) will be presented at the Safety Officers Conference in Scottsadale Arizona. Capt. Dick Weise, an NFPA committee member, will be presenting today’s program – “Firefighting PPE”

Thanks to  Fire Camp 2 for use ofthe facility andhospitality.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

 

Program: Firefighting PPE

Fact, Fiction, and Crossing the Barriers to Reality

Capt. Weise / SAFER VP is a sitting member on the NFPA 1971 Committee, 1851 Committee and the 1977 Committee as well as a FDSOA member.

Dick gave a brief description on the NFPA 1851 standard, its content and origin with SAFER’s development.

NFPA 1851 Is on a five year update rotation. (Selection, care and Maintenance – SCAM document). Some states like Texas is an “NFPA” state which means they will, by LAW, comply with NFPA standards –“recognized national standards”. Manufacturers “run” the many NFPA committees with agency representatives occupying a minority of committee seats. Design and protective qualities are measured to accommodate requests / suggestions by end users. They currently don’t test  “full ensembles”, only individual parts of the ensemble. Older standards failed to address the “hazardous material” that may remain on various PPE elements after an exposure. Current standards mandate cleaning and evaluation of PPE.

TTP – (Thermal Protective Performance) – Originally determines by exposing sailor’s to heat till a second degree burn was observed. Now tests are measured in a laboratory environment and data collected to determine the protective qualities of each part of an firefighting ensemble. Sometimes referred to as “breathability”.

Insert TTP Chart here:

Helmets need to be replaced at least every 10 years (two review periods). Helmets can only be tested using “destructive testing” so inspection / evaluation must be done periodically to insure minimum performance. OSHA and ANSI require retiring “hard hats” after 5 years for general use.

THL – (Thermal Heat Loss) – A person under “working conditions” develops heat that needs to be released. This can be measured to evaluate the appropriateness of a specific PPE product. 

“Second sets” of PPE are becoming more common. Each firefighter injury carries such a high “direct and in-direct” cost that providing the best possible protection IS WORTH THE COST of providing and maintaining superior PPE in the fire service.  

New face piece qualities were discussed: Heat exposure (tested to 500 degrees), communications equipment such as “Bluetooth” connectivity to crew Tac as well as command Tac. “Fit Testing” standards were discussed as well as flow performance.

Insert Temperature Effects Slide here:

“Routine House Fire” - 93% are single line fires in LACoFD. Most firefighter deaths occur in single family houses due to flash over. Contamination + Surface moisture + heat cause “Contamination Burn” due to “stored energy”.

It is critical that all PPE elements are inspected after exposure to products of combustion.

Cancer:                                               Insert Cancer Chart Here:

Test cancer (2.02 times greater risk)

Multiple Myeloma (1.53)

Non-Hodgins Lymphoma

Chemicals in smoke, soot dissolve in oil not water and readily pass through the skin. Full structure PPE has vapor protection capabilities whereas wildland PPE doesn’t which is what we often use for overhaul where the highest levels of carcinogens and “toxic twins” exposure. Our gear will cross-contaminate everyone who comes in contact with it, or is exposed to “off-gassing vapors” from residual material absorbed into the fabric or onto the non-porous surfaces. We need to wash hood after every fire, so we need two hoods per guy. No PPE should be in quarters, only on the engine room to minimize contamination of the station and exposure to toxic vapors.    

  • Exposure increases 400% for every 5 degrees of temperature increase.

Gross decontamination “on the fireground” is the best way to reduce personal exposures. Over 100 sets of turn-outs from all regions have been collected by an NFPA committee and are being tested for residual toxic materials.

Hydroxycolomine is a drug given to any smoke inhalation patient.

  • See the “White Paper” on firefighter Cancer – it’s on the internet, look for the second paper soon.

  • See Boston FD Cancer video on UTUBE

Discussion on “Single Layering”, some agencies are currently using the single layering concept. Now looking to provide no drip, no burn undergarments with good moisture wicking and anti- microbial fabric for under-garments. 

  

Capt. Dick Weise (951) 808-1914 Cell / rweiselacofd@yahoo.com

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Business Meeting:

Dues:

SAFER is collecting annual dues to replenish our funds to support the Safety Mission. Go to SAFER.org online to sign up and pay dues.

 

Roundtable:

Marquis Campbell- JPL

Alex Villegas Capt.-  JPL

Carlos Ulloa – JPL

Jerry Francel - JPL

Stuart Scott Safety – Building construction is changing and fire behavior is different, SCOTT is working to improve SCBA and integrated communications systems to improve ff safety. Discussed accountability system using bar-code status.

Joe Sposato ; AllStar Fire Equip / Vender Liason: Related the venders will be asked to participate to ensure adequate funding of the SAFER organization. Feb 2 and 3rd in San Diego – FIREHOUSE WORLD, get passes at AllStar table. Related the passing of an old friend (Charlie) who designed and manufactured a lined fire hose to handle 1800 psi for high rise fire protection systems. (Tested to 1200 psi) at the time.

 

Paul Alvarado – Long Beach FD: Discussed airport issues and the use of AFFF and related that FAA says it now must meet Military Specification. Loe Sposato added “Mil spec must all be compatible with other AFFF’s to prevent the AFFF from gelling in the tank when mixed”.  

Jeff Wilkerson – Camp Pendleton FD

Jim Dolan –LAFD retired

Russ Snyder ORCO FD: New academy starting – most are from other agencies. Has had a problem with gloves delaminating. Conducting BC testing this month.

Scott Perigou-UniMac Extractor’s

Eric Higgins Bestway Laundry systems. Has equipment (extractors etc), cleaning solutions. Sales, Installation and service.

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment. Will be at Firehouse World in San Diego

Ensinitas Fd- Many promotions occurring, Ensinitas works closely with other area agencies for select support needs.

John Cardenas – LAFD Risk Management

Scott Quinn LAFD – Open hiring, classes graduating a new class, looking at SWR contamination risks. Now sampling all water when exposing crews after SWR. Advises to decon after any SWR exposures. Working on an OSHA citation with a $20,000.00 penalty for a heat illness incident.  MUST document all Heat Illness, Injury training. Aerial Crush Injury- guy got his foot caught. A training tower accident resulted in a firefighter head injury after a fall from a prop during construction. CalFire conducted a class on “How to investigate a SERIOUS Injury Incident” with LAFD and other area agencies – suggests this as a future topic.

Jeff Howe Burbank FD: Has built a “re-hab” apparatus that responds to all fire incidents. All Burbank flashover container training is nowfollowing LAFD policy: No OSB products to be used to eliminate the associated toxins we expose our crews to. Limit the PPE used to a few that are dedicated to the drills. Looking for recruits – had a limited amount of participation in a recent recruiting event.

Jack – Fed Fire Ventura County Fire – Recently has taken delivery of several new apparatus.

Al Brewer LACoFD – Completed training with CalFire for investigations of SERIOUS Accident Incidents. Related a recent commercial fire event which resulted in four injuries from falling through a roof in an unoccupied building. Build a cadre within the county to assist any agency with accident investigations.

Pete Browne – Downey Fire Dept: Hiring soon, New Peirce Type 1’s being delivered. Having problems with new Dodge Chassis when loading gurneys due to loading height of deck. Several agency representatives offered assistance.

John Price LACoFD (Retired) Rep for MES – Thanked Dick for touching on Cancer in his presentation. Will have booth in SD, 1130 till 600 pm.

Brian Joran – LACoFD – Safety Officer: North Ops, “Blue Sheet Writing GURU”. Related an incident where an older lady pulled a gun on the crew. Another incident where a homeless guy pulled a knife on the PM’s. Related a recent fire where the crew saw only light smoke showing, entered without SCBA, discovered a room and contents fire. Breathed some products of combustion, resulted in illness at t home the next day (passed out twice at home) and eventually ended up in Hospital with CO exposure injury. Dick Weise related exposure to CO results in slowing of blood flow on arterial and venous sides.  Important to use the cyanide / CO RX after exposures. Related the LACoFD is developing standards for bloodwork on crew members with products of combustion exposures resulting in hospitalization, acceptable levels for returning to duty.   

Frank QualaCom – Provides communications equipment: sales, installation and service.

Mike Schlags - Rescue Carts Related a transport cart he designed and now manufactures for numerous incidents. Described some of the capabilities it offers and tied it’s use to injury prevention.

Mike Evans Solutions Safety – Complimented Dick on the PPE presentation and related the long history they’ve had in the NFPA 1851 standard. Related the various agency / departments that have implemented excellent SCAM programs to comply with 1851.  Encouraged all agencies to obtain extractors to cleanse PPE properly to reduce FF exposures and injuries.

Dick Weise LACoFD: KME prices are likely to increase as they have lost NYFD contract. Rosebourg Fire Equipment is looking to increase sales / service capability in the area / region.

Keith Gurrola Ventura Co FD (Retired) now Santa Paula FD -  Two out of four exposed crewmembers from the Mission Incident have retired, two more pending. One Type 1 apparatus retired as it was not able to be decontaminated after the exposure.    

Eric l. Higgins - Bestway Laundry systems, Manufacturer rep and sales / service for extractors.

      Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment,

 

  • 1200 Meeting Adjourned

  • Next Month Long Beach FD (Tentative)

     

 

 

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Michael Schlags – Cobra Rescue Litters

mschlags@cobra litters.com

P.O. Box 1981

Buelton, CA 93427-1981

(805) 896-7993

www.cobralitter.com

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

Scott Pereguy

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Tyson Raner – Systems Consultant –  Construction Innovations

(855) 725-9555

(916) 502-3414

5716 Folsom Blvd Suite 155

Sacramento, CA95819

Tyson.raner@constructioninnovations.com

Self-Contained , Portable Fire Alarm System

 

Ford Davies – B&D Safety Systems Inc. (Business Development)

(916) 765-8648 Cell/text

(800) 983-3518 Central Station

fdavies@bdsafetysystems.com

www.bdsafetysystems.com

Associates with: SecureWatch and FireWatch electronic monitoring units

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

 

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA

 

Jay Terry   Terry’s Canvas

terryscanvas@aol.com

2925 Palomino Court

Ontario, CA 91761

Phone (909) 947-7998

www.terrysfireequipment.com

 

Stuart Lovi – Regional Manager - SCOTT Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158 Fax

slovi@tycoint.com

www.scottsafety.com

 

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety

jime@solutionssafety.com

 

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment

lazarom@icloud.com

(626) 255-0433 Cell

 

 Meeting Attendees (Sign-In's)

Agency

Name

Phone #

email

Los Angeles County Fire

Dick Weise

951 808-1914

RWEISELACOFD@YAHOO.COM

Downey Fire (Retired)

Chuck Seely

(562) 824-3225

firebiz@att.net

Los Angeles County Fire (Retired)  / MES

John Price

jprice@mesfire.com

Quala-Tel

Frank Uram

858-577-2900

furam@qualatel.com

Camp Pendleton Fire (Retired)

Jeff Wilkerson

(949) 830-4087

jwilker@cox.net

Santa Paula Fire

Keith Gurrola

kgurrloa@spcity.org

AllStar Fire Equipment

Joe Sposato

joes@AllStarFire.com

H3 Safety Marketing

Brian Harvick

855-723-8943

brian@h3associates.com

Bestway Laundry Solutions

Eric Higgins

1-800-542-6166

sales@bestwayls.com

OCFA

Russ Snider

714-308-4338

russsnider@ocfa.org

Burbank Fire

Jeff Howe

jHowe@BurbankCa.gov

Cobra Litters

Michael Schlags

805-896-7993

mschlags@gmail.com

AllStar Fire Equipment

Lazaro Martinez

626-255-0433

lazarom@allstarfire.com

Los Angeles County Fire

Alvin Brewer

Alvin.Brewer@Fire.LACounty.gov

FireWatch Alarm

Ford Davies

FDavies54@gmail.com

FireWatch Alarm

Tyson Raner

Tyson.Raner@constructioninnovations.com

Los Angeles County Fire

Mark Mihaljevich

Mark.Mihaljevich@Fire.LACounty.gov

Los Angeles County Fire

Brian Jordan

Brian.Jordan@Fire.LACounty.gov

Western States Fire Equipment

Louie Garcia

213-272-5680

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

Bestway Laundry Solutions

Scott Perguy

1-800-542-6166

sales@bestwayls.com

Los Angeles City Fire (Retired)

James Dolan

562-400-1298

JSDolan123@AOL.com

SCOTT Safety

Stuart Lovi

Slovi@tycoint.com

Los Angeles City Fire

Scott Quinn

213-434-1380

scott.quinn@lacity.org

Santa Paula Fire

Austin Macias

Amacias@spcity.org

Santa Paula Fire

Dustin Lazenby

Dlazenby@spcity.org

Encinitas Fire Dept

Jim Gibson

JGibson@EncinitasCa.gov

Encinitas Fire Dept

Mike Guralski

Michaelguralski@sbcglobal.net

Long Beach Fire

Paul Alvarado

Paul.Alvarado@

Los Angeles Fire

John Cardenas

John.Cardenas@LACity.org

Fed Fire Ventyra County

Jack Koltaj

Jack.Koltaj@navy.mil

SC Products

Jim Evans

JimE@SolutionSafety.com

NASA / JPLFD

Alex Villegas

Avillegas@JPL.NASA.gov

NASA / JPLFD

Marquis Campbell

Marquis.Campbell78@yahoo.com

NASA / JPLFD

Carlos Ulloa

Carlos.Ulloa@JPL.NASA.gov

NASA / JPLFD

Gerald Francel

JerryFrancel@yahoo.com

 

 

 

 

 

SAFER Monthly Meeting Minutes - December 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

December 18, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:   President Fortman,  Seely, Lloyd , Quinn, Gurrola, Hudson, Past President’s Dolan, Duran and Newman.

Hosted by: Santa Fe Springs Fire Department

Mike Crook  – Fire Chief

1000    Meeting called to order – President Fortman – (B/C LAFD) Introduced D/C Hayward who welcomed SAFER and opened the meeting, led the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military.

Thanks to Ruth and staff for outstanding  hospitality and breakfast.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

 

Program:

“Mission Incident” – Ventura County Fire Department

Capt. Weisenberg & Eng. Bill Taylor

Background: (KTLA News Report) http://ktla.com/2014/11/18/several-injured-when-vacuum-truck-explodes-in-santa-paula-area/

More than three dozen people were injured Tuesday morning after a vacuum truck exploded at a wastewater disposal facility in the Santa Paula area, prompting evacuations and road closures in the surrounding area.The explosion occurred about 3:46 a.m. in the 800 block of Mission Rock Road (map), about half a mile southeast of the 126 Freeway, officials from the Ventura County Sheriff's Office and Fire Department said."It sounded like a car was coming through my house," said Mike Morin, who cares for dogs at a nearby animal rescue. The truck had been spraying a combustible white liquid at the time of the incident, fire Capt. Mike Lindbery confirmed to KTLA. The explosion spread the hazardous material around in a 300-foot radius, he said. Two workers at the scene, three firefighters and an ambulance driver were hospitalized with unknown injuries, according to Sheila Murphy, a county spokeswoman. Twelve others were being held for observation, she said.

The three firefighters' boots had "spontaneously combusted" when they came in contact with the white liquid from the vacuum truck, said Rick Macklin of the Ventura County Fire Department. The compounds appeared to be sulfuric acid and an organic peroxide, according to Dr. Robert Levin, Ventura County Public Health's medical director.

The owner of Santa Clara Waste Water Co., where the explosion occurred, said the business was established in 1959 and never had a major problem such as Tuesday's. The plant only takes nonhazardous waste, owner Doug Edwards said."This is unheard of, that's why we're so taken aback," Edwards said. The truck that blew up was delivering industrial waste, he said. Aerial footage showed firefighters working to extinguish several small spot fires that were still burning at the facility as of 10 a.m. The blaze was being allowed to burn out on its own into the night. Authorities hoped to begin an investigation into the cause of the explosion by 8 p.m. Fire officials did not want to spray water on the blaze because they were afraid chemicals would run into the nearby Santa Clara River. Mandatory evacuations were ordered for all residents within 1 mile of 815 Mission Rock Road, authorities said. A shelter-in-place order was issued for residents within 2 to 3 miles of that location. A Red Cross shelter was open at 530 West Main Street (map).Mission Rock Road was closed to all traffic until further notice. For several hours, a 6-mile stretch of Highway 126 was closed in both directions between Wells and Peck roads (map). Briggs and Olivelands elementary school were closed as a result of the incident.

The cause of the explosion, which occurred about 50 miles west-northwest of downtown Los Angeles, was not immediately known. Updates on road closures, evacuation orders and shelters were available online at vcemergency.com

 

“Training” Presentation: (Accompanying PowerPoint with embedded video and incident audio)

 November 18, 2014 –0356 hours Incident# 14-0075269 – Santa Clara Waste Water Treatment Facility.

Units responded to reported explosion and fire that became a major HazMat incident with civilian and fire fighter injuries. Ultimately four fire personnel have been retired due to exposure to chemicals and Ventura County Engine 26 had to be salvaged. 

Location was only permitted to receive waste water (sewage). Incident was located in Santa Paula. Patients transported to VCMC and “walk-ins” needed decontamination but accurate ID of materials was not initially available. ER was ultimately shut down due to contamination by an “unknown contaminate” from patients.  A total of three area hospitals were impacted by the incident. Speaker related he should have requested additional SAFETY OFFICERS to make notifications to all impacted agencies / institutions. As “unknown” liquid dried into a crystalline form, it became “shock sensitive” which resulted in an explosion when the rig was moved and when crews walked on material. Ultimately agents from ATF took the material to a lab for analysis (outside their vehicle) as no other labs wanted the “unknown” in their laboratory. The material was thrown over all area, where it dried and became “shock sensitive”.  Todd Road Jail (a nearby facility), Animal Compound (pit bull rescue), and Santa Paula Carwash has oxidizer spread to those locations.  One entire Fed Typed HazMat Team was pulled off the incident to conduct / support decontamination at the Hospital. Incident Safety Officer related they needed their agency helicopter to provide an area view of the incident. 37 people were treated for exposure to the chemical.  70+ dogs removed by volunteers under direction of Sheriff and Incident Safety Officer. LACoFD HazMat 150 responded under Mutual Aid to assist and handled the Todd Jail portion of the incident. They were later replaced with Federal HazMat Team 72. As fire consumed plastic totes and adjacent storage containers, numerous chemicals were mixing and reacting issuing toxic clouds. The HazMat crew(s) worked with DA’s Environmental Crimes Section to sample all totes and other storage containers on site and at an additional storage site used for truck / trailer storage.

The Incident follow-up investigations have resulted in 180 indictments issued to business principles so far.

Lessons Learned:

  • Establish strong control measures at the FRO level.

  • S.I.N. (Safety, Isolate / Deny Entry, Notifications)

  • Deny EXIT as well as entry of personnel until decon has been addressed

  • Coordinate early with Law Enforcement for strong site access control.

  • If you are challenged with containing possible contaminated individuals – contact the surrounding hospitals and neighboring jurisdictions ASAP.  

  • Attempt to verify what RP has told you about the product:

  • Review intel

  • CERS (California Environmental Reporting System)

  • Inventories reviewed may not always be accurate.

  • More Safety Officers early in the incident

  • Focus on AREA Control

  • Notify poson control safety as quickly as possible.

  • Establish relationships with outside resources that will support your operations. (ie local, area, regional or national laboratories)

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Roundtable:

Steve Cooley – MES, Wished everyone in SAFER a Merry Christmas & Happy New Year

Eric l. Higgins - Bestway Laundry systems, Manufacturer rep and sales / service for extractors.

Tom Ramstead and Tracy Rabe- Line Gear Fire Rescue Equipment, Representing several product lines.

Jim Evans – Wishes everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment, Thanks first responders for service.

Mike Scheldge – Rescue Litter, A new SAFER vender: Has designed a “Rescue Litter” with unique design features allowing exceptional maneuverability for fire / rescue as well as Law incidents.

Frank Uram –Qual-Com Communications – Handling DRONES from Northrop-Grumman that have IR camera as well as remote camera functions.

Eric Fullerton Fire (Retired)

Louie Rodreguez – CSFA – Happy Holidays, gave a gift to Steve Lloyd – retiring SAFER Treasurer.

Scott Marsahll L.N. Curtis – Has Smith detection equipment, rain gear for up-coming El Nino rainy season.

 Keith Gurrola – Santa Paula Fire Department (Ventura County Fire Department retired): Now working for Santa Paula FD.

  • 1200 Meeting Adjourned , next meeting January 15 th , 2016 at 0930 hours, Los Angeles County Camp 2 in La Canada. Program: “Blue Card” Program” – Alan and Nick Brunacini.

     

    Los Angeles County Fire Department – Camp 2, 4810 North Oak Drive, La Canada Flintridge, CA 91011-3759. Contact: Capt. Dick Weise (951) 808-1914 Cell / rweiselacofd@yahoo.com

 

 

Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

Jennifer Wise – Associate -  W.L. Gore & Associates

gore.com

jwise@wlgore.com

105 Vieve’s Way

Elkton, MD 21921

(410) 392-3600 Plant

(410) 506-5490

 

Tom Ramstead – Line Gear Fire and Rescue Equipment

Tracy Rabe – LineGear Fire and Rescue Equipment

www.LineGear.com

Sales @LineGear.com

23121 Antonio Parkway #125

Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

(800) 466-7574

 

Louie Rodriguez – Long Beach Fire Department / CSFA Member Benefits Specialist

lrodriguez@csfa.net

1232 Q Street, Second floor

Sacramento, CA 95811

(800) 451-2732 Office

(714) 580-9338 Cell

www.csfa.net

 

Allen A. Rom – Metro Account Manager

Fire-Dex, LLC

www.firedex.com

allen@firedex.com

780 South Progress Drive

Medina, OH 44256

(330) 242-1923 Mobile

(330) 723-0000 Ext 312

 

Michael Schlags – Cobra Rescue Litters

mschlags@cobra litters.com

P.O. Box 1981

Buelton, CA 93427-1981

(805) 896-7993

www.cobralitter.com

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

 

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA92335

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Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co

NAME

PHONE #

EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)

Chuck Seely

(562) 824-3225

firebiz@att.net

Los Angeles Fire Dept/SAFER Pres

Ellsworth Fortman

(661) 6451810

ellsworth.fortman@lacity.org

Quala-Tel

Frank Uram

furam@qualatel.com

Torrance Fire (RET.)

Steve Lloyd

shlloyd@yahoo.com

los Angeles Fire Department

Scott Quinn

231-434-1380

scott.quinn@lacity.org

Ventura County Fire Dept

Mike Weisenberg

Fire-Dex

Ventura County Fire Dept

Ventura County Fire Dept

Bestway Laundry Solutions

Ventura County Fire Dept

Michael Weisenberg

805 990-4326

michael.weisenberg@ventura.org

Hemet Fire Department (Ret.)

Scott Hudson

951-694-2591

scotth@snow-line.com

CSFA/Long Beach FD

Louie Rodriguez

714-580-9338

lrodriguez@csfa.net

L.N Curtis

Scott Marshall

(626) 840-7589

smarshall@lncurtis.com

H3 Safety Marketing

Brian Harvick

6616451845

brian@h3associates.com

Los Angeles County Fire

Dick Weise

951 808-1914

RWEISELACOFD@YAHOO.COM

Torrance Fire Dept

Steve Deuel

310-781-7019

sdeuel@torranceca.gov

Cobra Litters LLC

Michael Schlags

805-896-7993

mschlags@cobralitter.com

Ventura County Fire Dept

Aimin Alton

Ventura County Fire Dept

William Taylor

Allstar Fire Equipment Inc.

Lazaro Martinez

626-255-0433

lazarom@allstarfire.com

Ventura City FD

Lou Manzano

805-256-8522

lmanzano@cityofventura.net

Santa Paula Fire

Dustin Lazenby

805-794-0026

dlazenby@spcity.org

Santa Paula Fire

Keith Gurrola

8053771491

kgurrola@spcity.org

Bestway Laundry Solutions

Eric Higgins

18005426166

sales@bestwayls.com

Los Angeles City

Jim Dolan

562-400-1298

jsdolan123@aol.com

Fullerton Fire

Eric Newman

7145159471

on4day4ever@aol.com

LA County FD

Tony Duran

626-590-2991

Firetiger2013-SAFER@yahoo.com

MES

Steve Cooley

805-490-9949

scooley@mesfire.cm

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equip

Tom Ramstead

949 709 8808

Sales@LineGear.com

LineGear Fire & Rescue Equip

Tracy Rabe

929 709 8808

Tracy@LineGear.com

 

 

SAFER Monthly Meeting - November 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

November 20, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:   President Fortman,  Seely, Lloyd , Quinn, Gurrola, Sposato

Los Angeles Fire Department

Frank Hotchkins Training Center

Ralph Terrazas  – Fire Chief

0945    Meeting called to order – President Fortman – (B/C LAFD) opened the meeting and lead the flag salute and moment of silence to remember our fallen brothers and sisters in the fire, police and military.

Thanks to LAFD Firefighters Local for Coffee Station.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

**Quick Roundtable to begin a modified meeting formataccommodating the presentation “FireStats”:

Joe Sposato – (Vender Liaison) Related the Hawaiian Fire Chiefs Association Conference is next month in Honalulu, new SCOTT AIR PAK selected bySanta Monica FD is on display downstairs. (5500) PSI 45 minute bottle. 

Peggy Curtis  - Fire-Dex - we make Turnout Gear, Helmets, Boots, Hoods, and Gloves as well as Wildland garments.  937-974-7271

Frank Uram – Qualatel Communications: Related he is interested in receiving input  as to utility and desired functionality of (1) Electronic Version of “Keytags” for tracking equipment &  (2) DRONES in the Fire Service.

Scott Quinn – LAFD : Several injuries in LAFD recently – both are now Cal-OSHA Investigations, new class of 53 graduating next Tuesday.

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment - Rep for Black Diamond Leather Boot and Frank Piriano www.blackdiamond.com

 

Jennifer Wise – W.L. Gore and Associates – Gore paralon liner system is big improvement over old liner - improved wicking and thermal protection characteristics.

Keith Gurrola – Ventura County Fire Retired  

Jim - PlymoVent exhaust removal systems – all good

Eric Bestway Laundry Solutions – See downstairs display , Provides equipment and service for PPE laundry.

Stuart Lovi – SCOTT Safety - Related new features on newest SCBA’s, has IR camera on display downstairs on the drill floor. 

 

Program:          

FIRESTATS ™ – Data Analysis for the fire Service

Paul Rottenberg MBA, MPH

(530) 478-0657

paul@FireStats.com

10366 Hawke Lane

Nevada City, CA 65959

Bio:

FireStats is a consulting firm specializing in the analysis of fire service data and in teaching analysis techniques to fire service officers. Company founder, Paul Rottenberg, is a management consultant with over 20 years of experience in economic service and consulting to and for industry and local government. For the past 15 years Paul has been doing economic, data management and policy work on environmental and public works and public safety projects in California, Florida, and East Asia. He has worked with many of the different departments at the State government level in California and with California, Florida and Texas counties, special districts and cities and is a USFA Subject Matter Expert on Deployment Analysis. Paul spent ten years as an active paid-call firefighter/apparatus engineer/EMT with a combination fire department in Northern California and keeps current most of his certifications, including California Firefighter I, Hazmat, EMT and driver/operator.

Additional References:

  1. “Make Better Decisions: Put Your Data to Work”  - IAFC On Scene: April 1, 2012

    http://www.iafc.org/MemberCenter/OnSceneArticle.cfm?ItemNumber=5840

    An outline of Mr. Rottenbergs’ April 1, 2012 presentation to the IAFC.

     

  2. FireStats - YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC20uQtmOJzg-657c2vAfxYQ

     

    Paul Rottenberg of FireStats, LLC., narrates short video demonstrations on the use of Excel in analyzing fire service data sets.

Program:

Science of statistics, Would like to see the fire service be more invested in the continuum of healthcare, more of a partner in academic research,

"Statics s the science that makes generalizations, and therefore all progress, possible.  

Like most sciences, it of often misunderstood’. More than most sciences, it is abused by the cynical and rejected by the foolish and obstructive."  -Paul Rottenberg (circa 11/20/15)

We want to find the balance between questioning statistics and common sense.

Your Go-To Graphics and Tables

  1. *Bar Charts

  2. *Data Tables

  3. *Histograms

  4. *Box and Whisker Plots

Examples of each were discussed, limitations and advantages of each were highlighted:

  1. A Better Bar Chart has a title and label on it.  Just like a good map.  

  2. Histogram, continuous data shown graphically

  3. Box and Whisker Plots.  Box in the middle is 50% of the data, with 25% on either side.

     

  • A major limitation in data analysis in the FIRESERVICE is we do not have a uniform methodology in calculating response times from a statistical perspective.  

  • Pie Charts - Color is the enemy of statistics, in introduces an element that makes the grim and sober job of doing statistics harder.  

  • Bias is everywhere and a polite term in statistics.  Refers to systematic error.

  • Bias in presentation of results - Scale for a graph can be chosen to depict a small change look like a big change, or vice versa.  

  • Bar graphs, the highest value should not exceed 75% of the Y axis.

  • Publication bias - Many journals are much too keen to publish reports that give a positive result regarding efficacy of a new regime, compared to the negative trials that did not find any difference.  If a 'vote count' is done on the basis of the published reports, positive results would hugelythe negative results, although the fact may be just the reverse.  

  • Self - selection bias

  • Evaluation of this presentation has a potential for selection bias due to potential respondent leaving (attrition).

  • Selection Bias by a Researcher - walmart example in kentucky during an amo sale with 12 white male respondants that 90% say they will vote for Rand Paul.

  • Outliers and Thresholds.  How do we account for it?

  • The bell curve, the outliers will be out there in the standard divations.  

  • It seems that throwing out 3 standard deviations to the right of the mean is ok in most statistical analysis, unless talking about response times, some of those long responses are very important. Policy to review data “outside” the established thresholds

  •   Policy to review data “outside” the established thresholds – (anything over 10:00 get's special review)  Set the special attention further back in the data to give you a defensible position.

  • Change that it is attributable to an assignable cause or random variation.  If there is no assignable cause?  Then it is random variation.

  • For analysis purposes we have to have a cutoff somewhere.

  • Outliers and Thresholds (visible best in various chart types)

  • ***Developing stats / analysis / display choices to determine “Change due to an assignable cause”

  • GIS does not have rules for coloration, even though jurisdictions may be different, the colors they represent for measure different things but the underlining numbers may be totally different.

Reliability:

  1. “How often you handle your “own district” calls” (AVL vrs defined districts)

  2. Potential “side issue in considering reliability is Training and collateral duties being missed due to call volume

Probability:

  1. Sampling:    Populations versus samples

  2. Confidence intervals and levels

  3. Role Variables:

      • Estimating the strength of relationships

      • Correlation and Regression

  • Small Data is hard to understand as random variation has a visible effect. Consider collecting more data:

      1. Consider more measures

      2. Consider sampling (confidence)

*** Philosophical Problem on the subject of estimates:

The current thinking seems to promote the perception that what actually happened is the most important evidence of an agency’s capabilities.

But last year’s data is just a sample of what could have happened.

Last year’s 23 fires will not be the next years 19 or 28 fires. Different buildings will burn and random variation in the counts will necessarily occur.

 

***PowerPoint Presentation from Fire Stats™ was not available for inclusion in the meeting minutes.

 

1200 Meeting Adjourned , next meeting December 18th in Santa Fe Springs.

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Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

Jennifer Wise – Associate -  W.L. Gore & Associates

gore.com

jwise@wlgore.com

105 Vieve’s Way

Elkton, MD 21921

(410) 392-3600 Plant

(410) 506-5490

 

Paul Rottenberg MBA, MPH-  FireStats ™

paul@FireStats.com

(530) 478-0657

10366 Hawke Lane

Nevada City, CA 95959

 

Stuart Lovi -  Regional Manager, SCOTT Health and Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158

www.scottsafety.com

slovi@tycoint.com

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

Frank Piraino – National Sales Manager – BLACK DIAMOND

fpiraino@bdboots.com

(315)247-3260

113 Plaxdale Road

Liverpool , NY13088

 

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA92335

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Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency / Co                                       NAME                         PHONE #                     EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire (Retired)                       Chuck Seely                (562) 824-3225           firebiz@att.net

Quala-Tel                                            Frank Uram                858-577-2900furam@qualatel.com

Ventura County Fire                         Michael Weisenberg 805 914-4647                                   

michael.weisenberg@ventura.org

Western States Fire Equipment       Louie Garcia               213-272-5680lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

                                                                                                            jbeauvais@firefighterscu.org

Ventura County Fire (Ret)                Keith Gurrola             805-377-1491keith.gurrola@ventura.org

Los Angeles City Fire                         Scott Quinn                213-434-1380scott.quinn@lacity.org

Bestway Laundry Solutions            Eric Higgins                 1-800-542-6166

                                                                                                            sales@bestwayls.com

CalFire                                                 Barry Owens            951-218-4309Barry.Owens@fire.ca.gov

Ventura                                              Aimin Alton                323-895-0589aimin.alton@ventura.org

Firedex                                                Peggy Curtis               937-974-7271peggycurtis@firedex.com

Ventura                                              Niki Carmichael         805-910-5288                                                                                                                                                              niki.carmichael@ventura.org

Ventura                                              Victor Low                  805-234-2777victor.low@ventura.org

BestWay Laundry Systems               Eric Higgins                 800-542-6166Sales@bestwayls.com

PlyoVent                                            JIM CLEARY                 909-720-7064jtc1@roadrunner.com

Ventura                                              Mike Valley                805-479-9176michael.valley@ventura.org

LAFD                                                    Ellsworth Fortman     6616451810                                                                                                                                                                ellsworth.fortman@lacity.org

 

 

SAFER Monthly Meeting - September 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

September 18, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:   VP Weise, Past President Duran, Carey,  Seely,  Lloyd , Quinn, Wilkerson, Snyder,  Gurrola,  Sposato

Orange County Fire Authority

 Jeff Bowman – Fire Chief

0940    Meeting called to order – Capt Tony Duran – (HazMat Coordinator LACoFD) opened the meeting by introducing OCFA Assistant Chief Thomas who welcomed SAFER to OCFA and lead the flag salute and moment of silence.

Thanks to AllStar for breakfast hospitality

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

Program:          

***Change of scheduled program (DRONES in the Fire Service) due to a family emergency for the presenter -  Substitute program:                                      

Yernell Fire

Captain Dick Weise – LACoFD

Yernell Fire – Granite Mountain June 30, 2013

Granite Mountain Hot Shot Crew – 19 LODD’s

Background: The Yarnell Hill Fire was a wildfire near Yarnell, Arizona, ignited by lightning on June 28, 2013. On June 30, it overran and killed 19 City of Prescott firefighters, members of the Granite Mountain Hotshots. The wildfire was fully contained by July 10, 2013.This event resulted in the highest wildland firefighter death toll in the United States since the 1933 Griffith Park Fire killed 29 firefighters, and the highest death toll from any U.S. wildfire since the 1991 East Bay Hills fire killed 25 people. It is the sixth deadliest American firefighter disaster overall and the deadliest wildfire ever in Arizona

PowerPoint presentation

June 28, 2013 – 37 Active fires in Arizona. Many agencies from several states adjacent to Arizona contributed resources.

Excerpts from “SERIOUS ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION REPORT”:

10 / 18 Discussed

Key factors from the Yernell Incident where discussed while reviewing the 10 / 18 and select wildland strategies. Crew “Typing” (Type 1 vs Type 2) was discussed as it often relates in multi-agency deployments / assignments.

Recent studies regarding 1977 PPE ensembles and their effects on individual decision making with crew fatigue was related.

Photos were shown that were taken by the crew before the burn-over incident (cell phones / digital cameras), visual cues that help identify fire behavior and potential hazards were discussed.

Changes in fire behavior as seen in the photos were discussed as an indicator of changing fire behavior.

10 / 18 Explained:

The Ten Standard Fire Orders and Eighteen Watchout Situations have been developed over the course of the last five or six decades by the wildland fire community.  Each of the Fire Orders and Watchouts have been learned from incidents in which that situation has led to a fatality, entrapment, or near miss incident.  These are stressed to wildland firefighters and every firefighter is expected to remember each of them, even rookies. The Standard Fire Orders are the laws to live by for wildland firefighters.  The Watchout Situations are indicators or trigger points that remind firefighters to reanalyze the LCES system (Lookouts, Communications, Escape Routes, and Safety Zones) and to re-evaluate their suppression strategies and tactics.  Each of these have been written by the blood of wildland firefighters who have lost their lives fighting fire.  One of the first tragedy fires that contributed to the development of the 10 & 18 was the Mann Gulch Fire in Montana. This happened in 1949 and 13 USFS Montana Smokejumpers were killed.  A book written by Norman Maclean called Young Men and Fire tells the entire story of the fire. The Standard Fire Orders were revised (changed arrangement) in 2002, visitUSDA Fire and Aviation to view them.

The crew had 3 radios for Crew Boss and look-outs to share. They were assigned “point protection” (structure protection) on a ranch house (Boulder Ranch) in front of the fire. They choose a route to their assignment through unburned 12’ brush & rocky out-cropping’s instead of keeping in the burn.  Once at the ranch house, they had limited time to prep the site. When the look-out warned the fire was approaching they had about 10 minutes to prepare for the burn-over. They deployed their shelters but were hit by 2000 degree heat which quickly defeated the protective element of the shelters. (Shelters are designed to protect from radiant heat – not convected heat).  

Wind demonstration using the “Wind Wizard” technology was shown through each phase leading to the burn-over incident.

CO studies being conducted for firefighters. Dick related his experience with blood clots, secondary to CO exposure to multiple structure and wildland fires in a short period.  

   

Business Meeting:

11:40 Past President Duran opened meeting

OSHA Update: Scott Hudson – Absent , Tony related his experience at the “Continuing Challege” meeting in San Francisico - (How to survive a Cal-OSHA inspection).

NFPA update: Dick Weise – LACoFD – NFPA 1977 Wildland. 1971 Helmet Standard being looked at for appropriate length of service. Hoods are being evaluated for particulate protection using a ceramic component. Manufacturers are working to make PPE lighter, gloves with enhanced manipulation / dexterity.

Apparatus update: Tim – Absent. No reports

Vendor update – Joe Sposado – Oct 6,7 &8 Fire Tech Reno. Good classes, reasonable hotels and airfare.

Technology: Working to improve, Jon is working on background of website.

Treasures Report: Steven Lloyd presented the treasures report.

 

Open Forum and Round Table:

Jim Evans – Citro Squeeze – Related a bill in CA is working through the legislature to make NFPA 1851 as new law, making adhering to the standard required. Related the Citro-Squeeze product line has added SC-14 cleaner to the fire service to clean hydrocarbon residue from equipment and facilities.

Long Beach – B/C  Paul Alvarado – Related his experience upgrading his agencies PPE program. Spoke of the benefits the info received at SAFER made in their PPE purchases.  VP Pre-Mix fuels: Related they had issues with seizing 2-cycle saws because of the ethanol added to many fuels so they have begun using a purchased “pre-mixed” fuel blend. MotoMix is another brand related by Dick Weise. Added their department will revert back to two medics on a PM Squad after the LA EMS agency advised them the performance of the program was un-acceptable. (effective October 3rd)

Capt Mike Wizenberg – Ventura County Fire – Related about ¼ of the department will be retiring in the next few years. New training model (Learning Management System) being used for all personnel, Tracks training hours, required topic coverage, company activities of any type). Features “outside” invites for participants.

Eric Hainy – Areo Environment – Came for DRONE program. UAV manufacturer to military.

Steve Hoyle – Ca fire Museum – Related they have had several engines donated, some going through refurbishment. Crowd funding site on their Facebook page to refurb Long Beachs oldcivil defense rig. At “Cruising for Cure” – September 26th at Orange County Fairgrounds.

Steve Hoyle (additional information from email) – Orange County Fire Authority (Retired), CA Fire Museum Donations Coordinator - The California Fire Museum & Safety Learning Center has a GoFundMe site, we are raising money to paint our 1953 REO Civil Defense Rescue. Please go to GoFundMe.com/x9sfa4cg to donate. We (the Fire Museum) are accepting donations of any items related to the Fire Service, We have several engine’s we are currently in the process of outfitting and need anything used on an engine.

Contact: Steve Hoyle - Donation’s Coordinator

949-496-5688

stbear@cox,net

 

Jeff Wilkerson Camp Pendelton (Retired)

Kelly Witt – Workright Uniforms – Thanked OCFA for their business. Working with new fabrics with properties that the fire service will be interested in.  (Wildland Gen 2,  “Tech T4”).

Ed Carey – Santa Barbara Co FD (Retired)

Joe Sposado – AllStar Fire Equipment – Pasadena FD will soon put new SCOTT SCBA’s with 5500 PSI bottles. Ventura just was approved for SCBA Grant, AllStar now stocking the new Long Beach Spec. LBFD related their new PPE has been well received by crews. Akron now has a new intake valve with wheel actuation.

Keith Gurrola – Ventura County (Retired) – Lots of overhead and strike team deployments. Advises all participants to maintain training records / documentation for CICCS development through agency reps. State FM instructor update courses are coming to an end.

Julie Bovey – Firefighters First CU – 80th year anniversary this year. Check out their Facebook Page, check the website for entry to a drawing. 

BrianHarvick -  H3 – Introduces a new light for helmet mounted LED light: Great features with rear facing green light for buddy tracking, flood and spot forward. New design of fire axe.

Frank Orin – Qualitel Communications – Has systems for interfacing into radio’s, Bluetooth.

Ed Shaffer – LN Curtis – Has 2-cycle pre mixed fuels available – REMs (Rapid Extraction Module) Will be next month’s topic at L.N Curtis in La Mirada

Stuart Levi – SCOTT Safety – New SCOTT equipment has Bluetooth connectivity from radio to headset. Additionally they have a “crew comm” feature available. Escape belt feature now available on new airpacks.

John Ramirez – SCOTT Safety – Works on Military side of safety gear for SCOTT Safety. New technical data will be available from sensors (chemical, thermal images etc..) on SCOTT equipment that can be monitored world –wide.

Louie Garcia Western States Fire Equipment – Has equipment available now in California.

Eric –BestWay Laundry – Has new detergents available for PPE Maintenance. Sells, installs and maintains Extractor machines.

Scott Quinn LAFD – Tower classes are continuing, just took delivery of three rigs. LAFD is transitioning to single layer gear from a grant. Get “Homeland Study” to see justification to migrate to single layer.

Warehouse fire LAFD had revealed very high levels of CO and HCN during overhaul. The warehouse contained flooring, much of which was “laminate” type materials.

Babara -LACOFire Health HazMat – First meeting, manages some HazMat programs through the LACo Health – HazMat Division of the LACoFD.

BC Takasita LAFD –  Risk Management Manager – First Meeting related his experiences in his role.

Russ Snyder – ORCO – Thanked attendees for attending, has a recruit academy underway, for sees continuous tower classes for the next years. Has transitioned to new work uniforms.

Dick Weise LACoFD – Thanked venders for continuing support of SAFER and related the importance of vender participation.

Tony Duran – LACoFD HazMat Coordinator – Related the importance of decontamination methods should be begun as soon as possible after ANY potential exposure, not waiting till returning to quarters. County is running tower classes continuously. Ventura will be able to provide a basic review of the Mission Incident (The incident is still being litigated).

 

***All venders provided current particulars of their product lines and services.

1200 Meeting Adjourned , next meeting October xx, 2015 at L.N. Curtis in La Mirada.

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Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Ed Shabro – Sales Representative   L.N. Curtis & Sons

eshabro@LNCURTIS.com

16821 Knott Ave.

La Mirada, CA 90638

Phone (323) 780-0254

Toll Free (866) 557-0254

Cell (760) 250-1180

www.LNCURTIS.com

 

Stuart Lovi -  Regional Manager, SCOTT Health and Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158

www.scottsafety.com

slovi@tycoint.com

 

Lazaro Martinez – Regional Sales Representative – AllStar Fire Equipment

lazarom1@verizon.net

(626) 255-0433

 

Michelle Trout – CBRN Technical Specialist    LION Uniforms

MTrout@lionprotects.com

7200 Poe Street – Suite 400

Dayton, Ohio45414

(480) 225-1324

www.lionprotects.com

 

Brian Harvick – H3 Safety Marketing

H3safetymarketing.com

(855) 723-8943/    (855) SAFETY.H3

(661) 645-1845 Cell

25060 Hancock Ave. #103-226

Murrieta, CA     92562

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Kelly Whitt – Regional Account Executive – Workrite Uniform

kwhitt@workrite.com

(909) 289-5775

Workrite.com

1701 N. Lombard Street , Suite 200

Oxnard, CA 93030

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

Brett E. Maurits - Vice President, Sales – Public Safety – Redback Boot Co. USA

b.maurits@sbcglobal.net

(619) 203-6541

www.redbackboots.com

1031 S. Andreasen Drive #100

Escondido, CA92029

 

Louie Garcia – Western States Fire Equipment

lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

www.WSFireEquip.com

(909) 510-4266

(213) 272-5680

13800 Valley Blvd.

Fontana, CA92335

 

Mark Sheldone – Fire Safety / Technical Specialist - Manufacture’s Representative

Days-Off Consultants – Fire Equipment Marketing

msheldone@sbcGlobal.net

(760) 505-3473 Cell

Carlsbad, CA 92008

 

Eric Haney – Unmanned Aircraft Systems

haney@avinc.com

www.avinc.com

(805) 581-2187

(805) 208-6840

900 Enchanted Way

Simi Valley, CA93065

 

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Meeting Attendees (Sign-ins)

Agency                     NAME                      PHONE #                     EMAIL (s)

Downey Fire -Retired Chuck Seely (562)8243225      firebiz@att.net

LION                                   Michlle Trout  480-225-1324  

                                                                               mtrout@lionprotects.com

Quala-Tel                           Frank Uram     858-577-2900     

Ventura County Fire       Michael Weisenberg     80594647                                   

                                                                  michael.weisenberg@ventura.org

LN Curtis and Sons             Ed Shabro         

SBCRet.                      Ed Carey  805-895-9225   edwin.carey@gmail.com

calif. Fire museum        steve hoyle         949-496-5688   stbear@cox.net

Wolfpack Gear/Paso Robles Fire  Mike Oberndorfer  805.423.2691                       mike@wolfpackgear.com

LA County FD                                     Tony Duran                626-590           firetiget2013-

SAFER@yahoo.com

Western States Fire Equipment       Louie Garcia               213-272-5680lgarcia@vvgtruck.com

AeroVironment                                 Eric Haney                  805-6840         haney@avinc.com

Firefighters First CU                           Juloe Beauvais           323 216-6657

                                                                                                            jbeauvais@firefighterscu.org

Los Angeles County Fire                  Dick Weise                  951-807-1914rweiselacofd@yahoo.com

Camp Pendleton                                 Jeff Wilkerson                        9498304087    jwilker@cox.net

Ventura County Fire                          Keith Gurrola             805-377-1491keith.gurrola@ventura.org

Los Angeles City Fire                         Scott Quinn                213-434-1380scott.quinn@lacity.org

Bestway Laundry Solutions            Eric Higgins                 1-800-542-6166

                                                                                                            sales@bestwayls.com

OCFA                                                      Russ Snider                 714-308-4338russsnider@ocfa.org

LACoFD Health HazMat                    Barbara C. Vu             N/A                 N/A

Days-Off Consultants                        Mark Sheldone          760-505-3473

                                                                                                            msheldone@sbcglobal.net

Workrite Uniforms                            Kelly Whitt     9          09-289-5775    kwhitt@workrite.com

Redback Boots                                   Brett E. Maurits         619-203-6541b.maurits@sbcglobal.net

H3 Safety Marketing                         Brian Harvick             855-723-8943brian@h3associates.com

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SAFER Monthly Meeting - August 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

August 21, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:  President Fortman, VP Weise, Carey,  Seely,  Lloyd , Quinn, Wilkerson, Snyder

Carlsbad Fire Department

Safety Training Center

5750 Orion Way,

Carlsbad, CA

Mike Davis – Fire Chief

 

0940    Meeting called to order – President Ells Fortman

Thanks to FIRE ETC for breakfast hospitality, and Lion -  AllStar for lunch.

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

President Fortman opened the meeting by introducing Deputy Chief Mike Lopez who welcomed SAFER to Carlsbad and lead the flag salute and moment of silence. Chief Lopez briefed the attendees on the “Safety Training Center” and some of the particulars of the Carlsbad Fire Department. (11000 calls a year / 85% medical, 6 stations, 83 sworn personnel). Chief Lopez related the training facility cost $14 million dollars to build and it’s made the Carlsbad firefighters, police and public employees better.

Chief Lopez thanked the fire service attendees for their service and the venders for their contribution to firefighter safety through PPE improvement(s) and safety product development and support.

Chief Lopez congratulated Deputy Chief Jeff Wilkerson (MCP) on his retirement and thanked him for 38 years of service to the fire service. The group joined with a standing ovation to Chief Wilkerson. 

Chief Lopez introduced Battalion Chief Jeff Chumbley who would present the program.

Program:

Poinsettia Fire – July 14, 2014

                        Battalion Chief  Jeff Chumbley –  Carlsbad  Fire Department

On May 14, 2014, at approximately 10:34 am, the Poinsettia Fire ignited in Carlsbad burning nearly 400 acres and destroyed several structures. BC Chumbley related the initial actions and resource profile utilized on the incident. He described how other active incidents in the region impacted this incident and how other area command officers (including area Fire Chiefs) assisted in the management of the incident. He reviewed the Incident Organizational Chart and discussed lessoned learned for future incidents including assigning a Safety Officer sooner in the incident. Chief Chumbley discussed the concepts of “Fire Front Following”, “Anchor and Hold” and “Transitional Attack” tactics as they are employed on “urban Interface” incidents. He related the difficulty with communications as the incident grew – necessity to move to dedicated frequencies and radio systems (800Mhz vs. VHF). Chief Lopez discussed the importance of developing FMAG application and support documentation to support the financial dimensions of these types of incidents. Incident was an LAR (Local Area Resource) fire so the usual support that occurs with other large incidents that enjoy support of the various “IMT’s (Incident Management Team(s) was not available / applicable.

A Commercial Fire (Sound-Eklin) occurred during this UI fire and the responding firefighters saved the companies “data” from their building by removing the computers / records which ultimately saved the company’s future.    

Critical Factors:

  1. 2% fine fuel moisture

  2. 100% Probability of flame capture

  3. 446 Chains(29,436 feet) / hour

  4. 5.58 MPH

Lessons learned:

  1. Red Flag conditions / Wildland Response

  2. Leader’s intent vs. Independent action.

  3. FD/PD Unified Command

  4. Equipment prepared for Urban Interface / Wildland response

  5. Power lines SDG&E

  6. Air Support – VLAT / Air Attack / Rotor and fixed Wing

  7. Full CDF Wildland Response

  8. “No Divert” on air assets when lives are at risk

  9.  Driving into heavy smoke

  10. Position Qualification’s (STL / Engine Boss / DIVS)

  11. Limited resources due to other active incidents

  12. Local resource depletion (Vista Fire)

  13. EOC Opened:

  1. Logistics Support

  2. Base Campo Support

  3. PIO

  4. Mapping

  5. IAP

  1. Base Camp:

  1. Releasing Resources

  2. Relief of Existing crews

  3. Contingency plans for incident resource needs

  1. Salvage and Overhaul of personal effects of residents / businesses

Powerpoint:

Videos:

 

Business Meeting:

11:40

OSHA Update: Scott Hudson – Absent. Scott Quin related LAFD is averaging 1 injury / month. He recommends a heat “Risk Assessment” be included in your departments Risk Documents. Ells related the person responsible for reporting to OSHA needs to be notified in a timely manner to meet the 24 hour reporting requirement and avoid large penalties. LACofd related the death of a Lifeguard who died while pool testing.

NFPA update: Dick Weise – LACoFD - began discussing NFPA 1977 regarding wildland helmets, destructive testing and vented helmets, fire shelter industry variances in materials, designs and weight. (15-18 options available). Discussed the SCAM document (NFPA 1854)  for wildland PPE and the pro’s and con’s (single layering)., Cleaning/Contaminates: Biological and Chemical with regards to disinfection/cleaning. Update on Fire Protection Research Foundation (funding, and PPE Cleaning)

DRD. Drag Rescue Device Survey report for Public Input. Chemical List, revision/update list regarding addition/deletion and hydraulic fluid(s) (Phosphors ester) effects on moisture barriers. Survey produced well over 1700 responses and mobile ISP’s Carbon Monoxide Study for firefighters for low level, long term effects and high levels in short term.  UCLA and St Joseph Hospital to study effects regarding respiratory, cardiac, stroke, and deep vein thrombosis related to CO exposure.

LACoFD is now transitioning to single layer wildland PPE, webgear being redesigned with FR material by Mystery Ranch Manufacturing. Hydration standard is being developed for consideration as a Health and Safety mandate , 1854 SCAM Doc for wildland. New STIHL chainsaws are being developed with injection instead of chainsaw. “Motomix” comes pre-mixed for 2-cycle fuel. Has better characteristics than the gasoline being proposed for CA (Ethanol additives). Gloves being studied for protective characteristics. When fire room is pressurized many contaminates enter our crews bodies through their skin via porous PPE at hood, neck, wrists and around the waist. A new moisture barrier is being developed to better isolate our crews from toxins at those locations.

Apparatus update: Tim – Absent. Ells related LAFD took possession of several KME triples that have selected NFPA standard deficits. Narrow captains seat area, rough engine cowling etc. The new units weren’t ordered with exhaust that connects to PlyMoVent Exhaust removal systems. 

Vendor update - Lazaro Martinez discussed the recent sales activity and three dimensional glove product.

Technology:

Treasures Report: Steven Lloyd presented the treasures report. Approximately $2400 in reserves. Discussed recent dues contributions from website.

 

Open Forum and Round Table:

Scott - Ventura County: Discussed “Peck Fire” MTZ (Multiple Threat Zone) Vehicle over the side starting a brush fire. LACofd, LAFD and Ventura County responded with Copter 19. Victim crawled into a tunnel / pipe under the freeway till fire burned over. OSHA experience: a tree trimmer death caused by palm fronds caused the agency to make a Cal-OSHA notification. Related an injury to a crew member while climbing over a fence with a ground ladder that resulted in serious leg fracture. Mission Incident investigation has made seven arrests relating to illegal storage of hazardous materials. Two rigs were exposed to hazardous chemicals and will not be cleaned / sanitized to allow return to service.

Jim Evans – Citro Squeeze – Introduced a new specialist (Gabriel Flores) who knows the pump systems used in extractor washing machines. Related California is drafting a standard based on the provisions in NFPA 1851 as Texas has done. Will likely impact budget requirements for PPE going forward.   

San Diego City

Steve Lloyd – Torrance

Santa Barabara – Ed  

Peggy Curtice – Fire-Dex – Related a three dimensional glove

Russ Snyder ORCO Fire – Just Promoted 19 engineers, new academy class graduating next week. Expecing a rash of Santa Ana Guys to retire next year which will necessitate additional hiring.

Gabriel Flores – Pump expert that supports 1851 extractor units

Scott McKensy – Steadfast moisture technologies – Working with local depts. To develop/ support hoods etc.

Andy Spear Carlsbad FD – Thanked SAFER for coming to Carlsbad Safety Trng Cntr, 9 guys on probation, have numerous members assigned to incidents statewide. FS remodel under way.

John Nelson – Lion Uniforms – Related they have a tri-certified pant, will be promoting a multi bio uniform in the near future

Michele – Lion Related they’re promoting a new glove.

Dick Weise – LACoFD – Related they will be starting a recruit class next month. Related KME lost the FDNY contract and is spreading the loss across all future sales. LACoFD will be going out to bid on future apparatus purchases.

Lazaro Martinez – AllStar Fire Equipment – Related a project to have “pods” designed for specific risks (mass casualty, chem / bio) distributed throughout the area/region/ state. Could be rapidly deployed to specific incidents with need upon request.

Stuart – SCOTT Safety – Introduced “Rescue belt” feature now available on SCOTT SCBA’s. Has a life safety rated belt strap. Related SCOTT bought ISG Infra-red cameras which will be the camera they develop and market in-house. Introduced a blue-tooth interfaced intercom for “crew com” and voice amplification. Radio (Incident comm) also interfaces to allow better communication with other resources.

Al Brewer - LACOFD – Tower classes being planned for “overlapping” recruit towers. Has a new female / civilian “Chief Officer”.  Investigating a serious accident incident where a crew fell through a roof and a helicopter hard landing near whittier hills during the recent fire in Montebello.

ScottQuinn – LAFD – Relating he was listening to the Mission Incident while driving in. Has a new class of recruits 43 that graduated yesterday. They remain 28 companies down, expect more hiring as they have an increased budget this year. Had an incident with a recruit that suffered the RHABDOMYOLOSIS illness.

Live fire program is still off pending development of new standards / controls. Lots of new construction projects underway in LA.

Ells – LAFD – Had several guys transported from Stations to local hospitals for chest pain. One was fairly minor, but one 31 year old had a serious heart condition –  took to a “not the closest” hospital at the request of the patient. Ells related it would be best to always follow the established operational standards when staff has emergency situations involving “our own” as the firefighter was in very serious condition on arrival at the emergency room.  Discussed “poaching” across jurisdictional lines.  Related a recent fire incident with trapped occupants.

SAFER : ORCO Fire Authority – next meeting, Dues will be solicited to support committee travel / participation and business costs (Website etc.)

LAFD Scott Quinn

All venders provided current particulars of their product lines and services.

Meeting Adjourned , next meeting September 18th, 2015 at Orange County Fire Authority.

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Vender’s, Manufacture’s and Consultants represented at this meeting:

 

Ed Shabro – Sales Representative   L.N. Curtis & Sons

eshabro@LNCURTIS.com

16821 Knott Ave.

La Mirada, CA 90638

Phone (323) 780-0254

Toll Free (866) 557-0254

Cell (760) 250-1180

www.LNCURTIS.com

 

Scott Estrada – Vice President   FIRE ETC

Estrada@fire-etc.com

2190 Main Street

San Diego, CA 92113

Phone (619) 525-7286

Cell (619) 4033442

www.fire-etc.com

 

 

Stuart Lovi -  Regional Manager, SCOTT Health and Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158

www.scottsafety.com

slovi@tycoint.com

 

Jay Terry   Terry’s Canvas

terryscanvas@aol.com

2925 Palomino Court

Ontario, CA 91761

Phone (909) 947-7998

www.terrysfireequipment.com

 

Eric l. Higgins – Vice President    Bestway Laundry Solutions – UniMac Sales and Service

ehiggins@bestwayls.com

1035 E. Third Street

Corona, CA92879

Phone (800) 542-6166 ext204

Cell (951) 532-7700

www.bestwayls.com

 

Michelle Trout – CBRN Technical Specialist    LION Uniforms

MTrout@lionprotects.com

7200 Poe Street – Suite 400

Dayton, Ohio45414

(480) 225-1324

www.lionprotects.com

 

Jon Nelson - CBRN Technical Specialist    LION Uniforms

jnelson@lionprotects.com

7200 Poe Street – Suite 400

Dayton, Ohio45414

(509) 994-7055

www.lionprotects.com

 

Gabriel Flores-  Regional Sales Manager, Western U.S. - SEKO Dosing Systems Corp.

gflores@sekousa.com

1103 Branagan Drive

Bristol, PA19007

Phone (866) 740-7623

www.sekousa>com

 

Scott Mackenzie- Business Development Manager-  STEDFAST USA Inc.

smackenzie@stedfast.com

Cell (602) 549-5817

Toll Free (888) 673-8841

6989 West Grovers Ave.

Glendale, AZ 85308

www.stedfast.com

 

Gabriel Flores- Chemical & Dosing Systems Consultant-  AFChemical

Gtfloresjr2@gmail.com

(209) 840-3860

1570 East F Street-  Suite A-156

Oakdale, CA95361

 

Frank Uram- President  -  Quala-Tel Communications

furam@qualatel.com

Tel (858) 577-2900

Fax (858) 693-4109

Toll Free (800) 442-1504

Cell (858) 945-1659

9925 Business Park Avenue- Suite A

San Diego, CA92131-1171

www.qualatel.com

 

Safer Monthly Meeting - July 2015

SAFER  Meeting Minutes

July 17, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:  President Fortman, Immediate Past President Duran, Seely, Sposato, Hudson,  Lloyd  

AllStar Fire Equipment

0955    Meeting called to order – President Ells Fortman

Thanks to AllStar for hospitality

President Fortman opened the meeting by introducing Joe Sposato who welcomed SAFER to AllStar and led the flag salute and moment of silence. Joe related the restroom locations and particulars of the meeting venue.

Email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

Program:                         “Diesel Particulate Filter Regeneration”

            Capt.  Tim Mcintyre LACoFD / Training Division – Los Angeles County Fire Department

Handouts - PowerPoint Available

           

Business Meeting 7/17/2015:

Committee Reports:

OSHA:  Scott Hudson – Hemet (Retired) : CalOSHA advisory board is developing “Tunnel Safety / Emergency Response  Standard” for future underground operations. FEMA teams are undergoing training at the national level. New standard will likely impact equipment requirements unique to tunnel operations.  OSHA is increasing staffing to better serve their mission. CalOSHA is currently understaffed and recently advised they only want to have “serious” cases requiring hospitalization. Refer to reporting requirements for guidance.

Financial: Lloyd – $2600 in C.U. account.  Steve will continue email blasts to provide meeting info to attendees.

PPE -  Dick Weise (NFPA Committee Member): Absent  today.

Apparatus:  Tim Mcintyre covered the 2012 EPA Diesel Particulate Filtration standard and Detroit Diesel system in the meetings presentation.

Technology –Pres.  Website: New Website is up and operating but still evolving to better meet our needs. Expecting improvements this month.

 

Round Table:  10:20

Rick (Ventura Co.) Fire Express US / High Pressure Water delivery equipment using new technology nozzles. Will save back injuries, suppress fires with less water, faster knock down.

Andy with Fire Express. Related their training out-reach program to various fire agencies. Touched on water savings potential.

Scoot Hudson – Hemet FD (retired) – Hemet will remain an independent “City” fire department after the (new) city council cancelled the migration to CalFire.

Scott - Ventura Federal FF’s – Commented on new ARF rigs they have received. He works on San Nicolas Island.

Lazaro Martinez - AllStar – Reps much of So Cal. Has noticed an uptick in equipment sales, many new guys going through hiring – recruit training. Discussed the use of class A foam in many agencies. Related many agencies no longer use class B foam. AllStar is distributor of Class A foam.

Scott Perigow –  UniMac Extractors.

Best Way laundry systems.

Joe Sposato – AllStar Fre Equipment – Vender Liason : welcomed new venders, discussed the grants being published weekly to aid agencies in equipment purchases. Related Pasadena just updated their SCBA’s using grant funding. Fire Apparatus are also beginning to be purchased by many agencies as the economy picks up.

Steve Lloyd Torrance FD (retired) – Torrance 911 “Never Forget” Patch / sponsoring a NYFD station with a $100.00 donation.

Tony Duran LACoFD – HazMat Coordinator. New class may begin in August.

Audnce Esponsoa ; Ventura Co Fire

Dan Will LAFD – Engineer , Manufacturing a ratcheting style hydrant wrench. Is a safer way of opening hydrants than old wrenches. These may save $80-100,000 per back injury requiring surgery.  Better ergo dynamics are the key to quicker / safer opening of hydrant valves.

Tim Mcintyre LACoFD – Currently down 300 plus personnel. Will be hiring and starting a recruit tower. Currently backgrounding 50 and sizing the recruits. KME raised prices on new rigs – likely will not buy any more. Discussed recent bids for new trucks and engines – related their experiacnes in the market place.

Ed Carey Santa Barbara Co. (Retired) - Eric Petersen is new Chief from within. Related many staff / admin changes within the agency.  Recently graduated a new class of recruits.

Frank Uran – Related Quala-tel Communication new products – Concealed radio equipment for un-marked vehicles.

Ells Fortman BC with LAFD – Related the attendance in the FF Olympics in LA was low. LAFD has two classes running now has budgeting for 5 more classes. Recently completed some Capt 1 to Capt 2 promotions.  Is now having a nurse practitioner riding on certain shifts / calls (10 hour shifts). Buying apparatus, will be taking delivery of some KME units.

 Next months (August) meeting will be hosted by Carlsbad Fire, ORCO the month after. 

Requests support of Special Olympics – his battalion is sponsoring several athletes.

Recess to venders: 11:00

 

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Adjourned at 1210 hours

“Taco Man” Lunch hosted by AllStar Fire Equipment – Joe Sposado.

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Vender Attendees:

Frank Uram - Quala-tel Communication

www.qualatel.com

(858)577-2900

 

Stuart Lovi -  Regional Manager, SCOTT Health and Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158

www.scottsafety.com

slovi@tycoint.com

           

 

Safer Monthly Meeting - June 2015

SAFER Meeting Minutes

June 19, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:  President Fortman, VP Weise, Immediate Past President Duran, Seely, Sposato, Lloyd ,Hudson, Quinn, Past President Dolan  

Los Angeles City Fire Department

Hotchkins Training Center

0945    Meeting called to order – President Ells Fortman

Thanks to UniMac – Bestway Laundry Solutions (snacks and lunch) for hospitality

SAFER email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc.

President Fortman opened the meeting by introducing Deputy Chief Joe Castro who welcomed SAFER to LAFD and lead the flag salute and moment of silence. Chief Castro related his experiences that “drove home” the importance of effective PPE in modern firefighting. He related a fire in the Hollywood Hills that led to a roof team member falling through a roof into a fully involved attic. The member was wearing “newer” turnouts as a rookie firefighter that provided fairly good PPE that is well maintained and properly donned.   

Program:       

                        Deputy Chief Castro – Operations Bureau – Los Angeles Fire Department

“Notable Large Incidents”:

1)      Condos under construction (Approx 1 Million Sq. Ft.) exposing several high rise exposures. Incident management strategies was discussed including the “after-on” efforts to provide assistance to tenants of adjacent buildings.

 

2)      Venice Fire (a storage facility) – An example of a fire that had an extended “burn time” that may need a change in tactics over time. Related the tendency to throw additional resources into the incident when “initial incident tactics” aren’t meeting production / progress expectations. He attributed this observation to Chief Alan Brunacini (Phoenix Fire Dept. – Retired) who relates the importance of periodic evaluation of current tactics as incidents evolve and to initiate timely strategic / tactical adjustments.

 

 

3)      Chatsworth Train Accident – Metrolink vs. Freight Train – The concept of resource allocation on major incidents and the need to address critical elements of the incident while maintaining a reasonable risk level. Chief Castro related the unique rescue methods required to locate and extricate victims from this major entrapment incident.

 

4)      Port of Los Angeles Wharf Fire 9/22/14 – Contrasted “our” Incident Objectives vs. the objectives of a large entity like the port or the airport. Related the impact of “closing the port” or “shutting down the airport” has on the important operation of the theses unique locations. Explained the importance of “continuity of operation” in these critical infrastructures / manufacturing occupancies. Documentary photos and video of the firefighting operation were displayed and explained by Chief Castro.  The lengthy firefight and the nature of the burning wharf material (creosote impregnated wood structural materials) exposed the crews to extreme smoke / toxic by-products. Related the role of the Incident Safety Officer on this and other incidents was suggested by Chief Castro as being an evolving part of Incident Management, adding there needs to be broader acceptance of difficult  safety restrictions in incidents were “risks” are non-life-safety objectives.

 

 

Discussed the concept of “Quantitative Decomposition” during fire scenarios and the over-haul process - specifically the risk to fire crews that are involved in this work. 

 

Chief Castro thanked the SAFER group for the commitment to Firefighter Safety over the years and into the future. 

 

Business Meeting:

11:00

OSHA Update: Scott Hudson discussed changes in OSHA regulations and oversight. Fatalities are on the rise in California since 2009. Heat illnesses are being scrutinized in the fire service. He recommended that “your” Heat Illness written policy should be on your fire apparatus. Discussion continued regarding: Oil refinery Bill is in the works and OSHA is increasing inspections. Future proposals are for Battery storage, charging and handling; crane operation standard, firefighter glove has been finalized, the Standards Board seats are nearly all vacant positions and that reduction in the fine schedule for compliance is being rewritten.

 

NFPA update: Dick Weise began discussing NFPA 1977 regarding wildland helmets, destructive testing and vented helmets, fire shelter industry variances in materials, designs and weight. (18-19 options available). Discussed the  SCAM document for wildland PPE and the pro’s and con’s (single layering). Discussion continued regarding Ethanol additive in fuel and 2 cycle engines, NFPA 1971/1851, Firefighting hoods and new considerations to design, USAF Risk Assessment regarding structural and proximity PPE’s, sizing standard for 2 and 3 dimensional gloves. Cleaning/Contaminates. Biological and Chemical with regards to disinfection/cleaning. Update on Fire Protection Research Foundation (funding, and PPE Cleaning)

DRD. Drag Rescue Device Survey report for Public Input. Chemical List, revision/update list regarding addition/deletion.hydraulic Fluids response to moisture barriers. Survey produce well over 1700 responses and mobile ISP’s Carbon Monoxide Study for firefighters for low level, long term effects and high levels in short term.  UCLA and St Joseph Hospital to study effects regarding respiratory, cardiac, stroke, and deep vein thrombosis related on exposure.

 

Apparatus update: Tim McIntyre discussed: KME now has FDNY contract. Prices are rising on their apparatus. Costing LACoFD an additional $80k per type I pumper. Expect higher prices from them. LACoFD current bid for 12 pumpers is going back out.  Pierce may be an option. Pierce has a new aerial out. 107' aerial ladder that is 750b lighter than their previous 105'. Brush season is upon us. Get your type III's ready. LACoFD has currently 2 of our 5 in the shops, so were unable to respond to San Bernadino this past week. LACoFD will be having our OES type III class at Del Valle TC again soon. Contact me if you have anyone interested in attending.  If you receive OES rigs, be aware of their rules for use & training.

 

Vendor update: Joe Sposato discussed the recent FDIC show and that it is a must attend event and that it would be good to have a greater west coast presence. Drones are going to be part of our emergency operations potentially by both agency and public use. The purchase and production of fire apparatus declined starting in 2009 and is starting trend up again, hesitancy to commit by manufactures exists.

 

Technology: Jan Stenc discussed that the website (SAFER.org) is up and running with content to come with connection to Facebook and e-mail addresses are coming

 

 Treasures Report: Steven Lloyd presented the treasures report. “have some need more” request for dues will soon go out. Approximately $2400 in reserves.

 

Open Forum and Round Table:

 

LACoFD Tony Duran discussed recent HazMat training and a new quick reference chart modeled after the periodic table.

LACoFD Tim McIntyre discussed: LACoFD will hopefully have a recruit class starting in September 2015.  Last Saturday we had 100 candidates arrive at the HQTC for uniform & turnout fitting.  Vendors were selected by Human Resources and it was not put out to bid.  Boot vendor failed to show. LACoFD Training Services Section will soon be designing 5 new "Training Engines/Pumpers" that will be used for training only.  They will not be outfitted to ever go into service in the field.

 

LAFD Scott Quinn provided and update regarding Cal/OSHA process for LAFD case, drill tower status.

 

All venders provided current matters regarding their product lines and services.

Meeting Adjourned , next meeting July 17th, 2015 at AllStar Fire Equipment.

           

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                       

 

Safer Monthly Meeting - April 2015

Meeting Minutes

Meeting Date : April 17, 2015

SAFER Board Attendees:  President Fortman, VP Weise, Immediate Past President Duran, Seely, Sposato, Gurrola, Snyder, Quinn, Past President Dolan  

 

THANK YOU TO OUR LOCATION AND HOST SPONSORS THAT MADE THIS MONTH'S SAFER MEETING POSSIBLE:

Meeting Location/Sponsor: Santa Monica Fire – Santa Monica Public Library, 601 Santa Monica Blvd., Santa Monica CA., 90401

Hospitality Sponsor: SAFER


0945    Meeting called to order – President Ells Fortman

President Fortman opened the meeting by introducing Chief Clemo who welcomed SAFER to Santa Monica,  briefing the group on recent  development activity in City of Santa Monica and leading the flag salute and moment of silence.

Pres. Fortman - Discussed the benefits of “networking opportunities” such as SAFER and related his experience with developing the LAFD PPE plan / policies with the help of vendors.

New email : SAFER.Members@gmail.com, twitter, facebook etc. to be developed

Program:        Department Health and Safety Officer Responsibilities

                        Capt. Scott Quinn / Safety Coordinator – Los Angeles Fire Department

SCOTT.QUINN@LACITY.ORG  / (231) 434-1380

Handouts - PowerPoint Available

Capt. Tony Duran – LACoFD and Capt. Al Brewer related CalOSHA experiences in support of the discussion / presentation. General discussion of key points and past experience of attending SAFER members followed.


Business Meeting 4/17/2015:

Committee Reports:

OSHA:  Discussed in program.

Financial: Lloyd  –  Absent

PPE -  Dick Weise (NFPA Committee Member):

1977 – Wildland Fire Shelter designs with various fabrics being tested in Missoula, including web-gear (no melt no drip).

Single Layer work / studies continue.

Stihl chainsaws now have an anti-bucking feature and have fuel injection feature on new saw line. Stihl is working with working with wildland community to improve their saws for the fire service.

Apparatus:

Vendors: Joe Sposato - AllStar – Joe thanked the attending vendors who are in attendance, related the FDIC (next week) is where new development’s in equipment are previewed. 

Technology - Website: New Website is up and operating. Pres. Ells related some of the features available and those that will be forthcoming. Thanks to Jan Stenc (Operations, SC Products/Solutions Safety) for his work in developing the website.

Recess to vendors: 11:00


Round Table Session:  11:30

Firefighter’s First CU: Previewed the services available to FFCU, Related 80 year history. 1.99% for new or used vehicles are now available. Scholarships, kid’s accounts are now offered to the membership.

Jim Dolan, Past SAFER President, LAFD Retired: Jim will be coming to future meetings with the Friday schedule.

Stuart Scott - Safety: ISG now owned by SCOTT Safety, Works out of AllStar.

Joe Sposado – AllStar: Now has a large amount of new brush gear available, new Phoenix helmets now available, new evolution glove available – some specially built for Training use. Recommended the new website.

Russ Snyder ORCO: New academy classes starting. 5 new KME rigs coming.

Jim Evans – Solutions Safety: Discussed the NFPA 1851 program as it relates to CalOSHA and other OSHA state programs and accident / illness incidents. Related the need to implement the central tenants of the standard and work towards full compliance in the future as a matter of policy.

Kelly Whitt – Workrite Uniforms: Related several new products their carrying – Gloves and single layer wildland ensembles.

Tom Foley - Fabric Products: Related the development of improved PPE fabrics, discussed some of the features they’re developing for the future.

Eric Williams 3M: Manufacture of retro-reflective products. Related new improvements in their product line.

All Brewer - LACoFD Safety Officer: New entrance exams proceeding, current process under investigation. LARICs project antennae stopped on county stations.

Tim Mcintyre LACoFD: Apparatus Committee, inspecting new pumpers for Catalina Island, Related agency replacement policy for apparatus: rotation of 10 pumpers and 2 trucks / yr.

Dick Weise LACoFD: Fire Wardens meeting next month in Irvine. Several presentations on incidents will be highlighted.

Scott Quinn LAFD: Related current recruit classes, discussed the documentation of all training program elements. LAFD Is moving towards single layer concept.

Tony Duran - Past President - LACoFD HazMat: Related recent training and drill projects with other agency HazMat resources in the region. Training projects included regional HazMat resouces: CST’s, Montclair Colleges, VNC other agencies.

Mike Wizenberg Ventura County: Testing and recruit academy updates. Discussed some elements with the recruiting process: limited sign-up timelines, random selection strategies. Top portion of Captains list are attending a “Captains Academy” with block testing as part of a promotional track. Final promotional list is developed from the ratings each participant receives during the “academy”.The purpose is to produce a well-rounded company officer.

Keith Gurrola VNC (Retired): Related recent promotions in the agency. Working on May meeting topic – Ventura City offered to cover if needed.

John Petuoglu – Hughes Energy Corp

Jan Stenc – Operations, SC Products (Solutions Safety) -  Working on our website

Kirk Owen – Veridian Fire Protective Gear :Discussed role at Veridian.

Randy Synstad and Steve Hageria - Western States Fire: Fire Equipment Sales. Based in Arizona. New corporate reorganization opens opportunities in California and SAFER.

 

Adjourned at 1210 hours – Board meeting following


 Vendors / Manufacturers attending:

Jan Stenc – Operations, SC Products/Solutions Safety (makers of CitroSqueeze PPE Cleaner)

+1 (714) 460-8626 ext 5

www.solutionssafety.com 

 

Randy Synstad – Fire Protection Specialist, Western States Fire Equipment

(602) 538-3846

www.WSFireEquip.com

RSynstad@WSFireEquip.com

 

Steve Hageria – Fire Protection Specialist, Western States Fire Equipment

(480) 278-2697

www.WSFireEquip.com

SHageria@WSFireEquip.com

 

Erik Williams – Senior Account Representative, 3M Corp.

(714)262-5189

www.3m.com

ewilliams@mmm.com

 

Kirk H. Owen – Regional Sales Manager, VERIDIAN Fire Protective Gear

(712) 260-3547

www.veridian.net

kirk@veridian.net

 

John Petuoglu – Managing Director, HUGHES Energy Corp.

(805)524-2400

(805) 223-5945

www.hughescorp.org

john@hughescorp.org

 

Frank Uram - Quala-tel Communication

www.qualatel.com

(858)577-2900

 

Stuart Lovi -  Regional Manager, SCOTT Health and Safety

(626) 241-0093

(626) 205-2158

www.scottsafety.com 

slovi@tycoint.com

 

Kelly Whitt , Regional Account Executive – Workrite Uniforms

(909) 289-5775

www.workrite.com

kwhitt@workrite.com